Broner is going to massacre burns

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Dai, Nov 17, 2012.


  1. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    Broner is the person going to have his hands full,we will train no differently
     
  2. billy when ricky wins in december could you come into the ring and brush his hair ??
     
  3. RichC

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    Let's hope it get made. Good luck to team Burns if it does !!!
     
  4. Boxalot

    Boxalot Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Broner, DeMarco, Abril or Vasquez would do.

    Katsidis has been past his best for years and Mitchell is a domestic level fighter who got stopped brutally by a gatekeeper in Katsidis. Moses isn't anything at all.
     
  5. Boxalot

    Boxalot Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Do you actually watch boxing, or do you just watch Burns? Judging from your joining date, avatar and post, i'd say the later.

    DeMarco hits ALOT harder than Burns and managed to catch Broner a couple of times to no effect.

    You haven't seen a performance as 'inept' as DeMarco's? That's not only completely disrespectful to a proven warrior who was in against someone who was leagues above him in terms of skill, it's also complete bollocks. In fact, why don't you check out the performance of Nicky Cook who was injured before he entered the ring against Burns?

    DeMarco is a very good fighter who would comfortably be the best fighter your man has fought.
     
  6. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    And yet he beat Katsidis... Selective reasoning will always come back to haunt you.
     
  7. Boxalot

    Boxalot Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Genuinely don't understand your point.

    Are you actually trying to suggest that a past it Michael Katsidis is better than a prime Antonio DeMarco?
     
  8. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    Certainly more proven. Katsidis is the better win, I don't how you can say otherwise. DeMarco's best win was over Linares, who was already chinny at a lower weight and was comprehensively winning their fight before the stoppage.

    Broner's "best" win is over Ponce, who many felt beat the mouthy yank. And how did Ponce beat him?
     
  9. Boxalot

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    Katsidis had lost 2 of his last 3 and then went on to lose to a journeyman in his next fight. Pretty sure he's now retired aswell, having never won a world title. By contrast, DeMarco was the concencus #1 at the weight with wins over Linares and Molina and on the best run of his career.

    I think anyone that knows the sport knows that Broner has improved tremendously since the PDL fight, just like Burns has since he lost to domestic level fighters like Alex Arthur and Carl Johannesson.
     
  10. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    DeMarco WAS NOT the consensus at the weight, unless you count by default. He beat Linares, who was more of a blown-up super-feather than a genuine LW champion. He also got stopped in his next fight, which casts his quality above FW and SFW into some doubt. He had no more right to be called that than Burns does. Abril has a better claim to that distinction.

    And you want to use Molina as an example? His best win was over Hank Lundy and, beyond that, he hadn't managed much else and just lost to Ray Beltran in fact.

    You made two mistakes there. One, you've suggested that my opinion on Broner is somehow flawed because, to use common parlance, I Don't Know **** About Boxing. Well, I suggest you look through my posts and reassess that stupid, baseless and arrogant assertion.

    But actually, I'd advise you shut up because of reason two. If you think Broner has "improved", then more power to you. I look at it very differently. After the scare on the PDL fight, his brain trust change the sort of guys he was fighting. They're all straight ahead plodders who prefer to use their faces for defence (and is what they had expected with PDL). The one exception to that is Litzau, who's basically a chinless wonder with moderate ability.

    Yes, he LOOKS improved, but only because he's fighting guys that don't pose him problems in the same way. Give him an opponent with better movement, a tight defence and who will control pace and range, and I suspect he'll suddenly look a lot less improved.
     
  11. Marlow

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    Who do you think wins between Broner/Burns dft?
     
  12. sikeside

    sikeside Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A dont see what the big issue is with fighters loosing against this guy and being shite against that guy, who gives a ****. That goes right out the winda when that bell goes. A was a plastic boxin fan now vergin on obsessed and a thank ricky burns for that. Great sport boxin a hope for rickys sake this fight happens he deserves it
     
  13. Boxalot

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    DeMarco WAS the concencus #1 at the weight, regardless of what you say. I'm fairly sure he was Ring Magazines #1 at the weight aswell as being WBC champ. Nobody at Lightweight has achieved a great deal so you could say he was the best of a bad bunch, but he was the concencus #1.

    I don't doubt that you know a fair amount about boxing. One would have to assume that after 8000+ posts on a boxing forum you'd have know a thing or two, although looking at some of the things i've read from certain people on this site there would be no guarantee of that!

    Broner HAS improved. There are quite a few similarities between PDL and DeMarco, although DeMarco is bigger and better in many ways. The fact that he went from arguably losing to PDL (he could easily have lost that fight) to absolutely hammering DeMarco shows this. It's also well documented that he - like Burns - struggled to make 130 and i think he'll get better and better. I think 135 and 140 will suit him very, very well.

    DeMarco was a career best opponent for him and he produced a majestic performance, just like Burns vs Martinez, Katsidis and Mitchell. I don't see what's not to like? Make Burns vs Broner happen for the WBC/WBO Lightweight belts and may the best man win.
     
  14. Scotty321

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    Sounds like Broner is up for it!

    "Marquez and Manny Pacquiao have a fight. Marquez can still make 135, so we're going to see what happens with that fight, but for the most part we're going to go back to the drawing board with Al Haymon and Golden Boy Promotions. There are more big fights. Ricky Burns is one. He has a great following. He is another world champion, a world class fighter. We can make a big fight in Las Vegas or wherever but we're not going over there [to the UK]. We're in no hurry to jump [to another division]. This isn't Frogger. We're going to take our time crossing the street," Broner told the scene
     
  15. dftaylor

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    I'm unsure. It does seem like a 50-50 bout right now. I need to really look at both of them. Certainly I can imagine Broner tagging Ricky with sneaky counters in the first few rounds, but I can see the Scot's jab and movement taking over in the second half.

    Like I say, I'll need more time, but I think Ricky has the tools to beat Broner and vice-versa. It'll all come down to execution on the night.