Broner's power

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  1. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    It was impressive in the lower weights and against lesser competition, but since moving above Lightweight his power hasn't translated into putting a hurtn' on his targets the way it once did.

    Aside from the flash, his power was the characteristic that was being celebrated by many as reason to consider him as a potential crossover figure. Some people likened him to Floyd but with power.

    Now that Broner has committed to fighting at 140 and above, and will steadily face improved competition, have the days ended of him creating a buzz over his ability to end a fight early? Have we likely seen the last Broner KO?
     
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  2. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    First I have to say this: It's hard to knock out world class opposition. You add in a move up in weight, and there you go.

    Broner's problem isn't his power, he has good pop. His problem is his stamina. It's clear to me he has to pace himself, not out of choice, but out of necessity. The man could have finished Molina, but it seemed he was more concerned with punching himself out and getting caught. And Broner showed a ton of toughness in his fight with Maidana. It's going to take more than 1 punch to get him out of there. So if you figure Molina wasn't a big KO threat realistically, why would Broner stay off the gas like that? Because he's worried about hitting Empty. I thought he could have got Molina out of there later in the fight on pure volume. The ref would have stopped it, Molina wasn't going to fire back.

    That, and the other problem is he is flat footed. Being able to throw with power is good, but he needs to show the ability to be versatile and fight on his toes. So far, I've yet to see that from him. I honestly don't think that's in his ****nal, and a big reason why I thought the Mayweather comparison were way off base. Watch Mayweather at 130, then watch Broner at 130. Two different guys. Similarities to be sure, but Floyd could really move in that ring while punching. Broner has to set his feet and really plant to setup his shots.

    Guys who can throw with decent power and in volume, are going to cause him problems. Especially if they have good footwork and foot speed. That flat footed style has weaknesses. And his defense is not as good as Mayweather's. (Since ppl like to compare the two)
     
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  3. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    Any comparisons to Floyd in context of overall skill were presumptuous, but when compartmentally ****yzed there are degrees of validity i.e: defensive posture when in the pocket, feinting at times, left hook/ straight right combo. So it was easy for people to slip into the position of declaring them as similar to one another.

    A similarity that's being proven correct is the diminishing power display as each have moved up, which of course is to be expected with pretty much any fighter. Though, there seems to have been an expectation that Broner was going to be capable of sustaining his ability of hurting his opponents as he moved up, which is being proven wrong.

    Broner does have a tendency of at time punching 'at' the target rather than to punch through it. He does pitter-padder his shots with arm punches. When he does elect to sit down and administer combinations, he does land some thudding blows.

    I think an issue that he's having, other than the fact that he's fighting heavier opponents have better punch resistance, is he's unable to create clean punching opportunities the way he once was able to. Perhaps that speaks to the the level of competition he now faces versus who he was fighting against a few years ago.
     
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  4. Benitom3

    Benitom3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Ranks very low behind Wlad and Raymi, but it's not terrible
     
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  5. The_Hawk_2

    The_Hawk_2 Lineal WW Champion Full Member

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    He's no feather fist but he's definitely not near Matthysse or Provodnikov in terms of power.
     
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  6. Jim Jeffries

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    I think his power is just a tad above average.


    He's not completely pillow fisted but his power is nothing to write home about.
     
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  7. Godhead

    Godhead Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He has good power at 140 and up, he just doesn't throw alot.
     
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  8. STB

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    Maidana was actually quite complimentary about his power as well
     
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  9. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    His power is good, he's just not setting up his punches that well. I don't think he'll ko anyone by throwing one or two punches at a time. He needs to attack his opponents body and start putting punches together again.
     
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  10. SUPER TROJAN

    SUPER TROJAN Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lol
     
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  11. remi

    remi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    its funny how his power didn't translate to anything close to his power in the lower weight class but Pacman somehow defied this by knocking out legitimate fighters who fought at he welterweight limit.

    Makes you wonder hey Pac fans?
     
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  12. Robney

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    The whole thing is a combination of moving up, not being able to bully fighters anymore by being 2 weightclasses above them at fight night, and the divisions just being stronger on average.
     
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  13. #1Rounder

    #1Rounder Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is the reason.. He needs to throw more and put his combos together more,,
     
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  14. Taylor2010

    Taylor2010 Arranging chromosome injections for injured boxers Full Member

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    Pac's no knockouts at 147 sort of supports the stepping up in weight theory being discussed here though...?
     
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  15. cippi

    cippi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    well maidana and molina say he hits hard so ill believe them
     
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