Brook has the belt , but Khan is the draw

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by rayrobinson, Aug 20, 2014.


  1. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Complete Myth

    Khan is a draw in Bolton, people tune in wanting him to get knocked out.

    I point you in the direction of Khan on primetime because even Sky wouldn't pick up a free fight LOL
     
  2. Dragon Punch

    Dragon Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wrong - khan walked away from sky.

    Sky wanted the fight to be on Sky Sports 1 and not PPV as Hatton promotions fcuked the undercard.

    Khans team where dicks and thru there toys out the pram as they wanted to keep Amir PPV. Again they where being Priks as McCloskey is crap and not a PPV opponent but the point is they chose to walk they weren't dumped.
     
  3. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not so sure about this. I'm no expert but I can see Brook getting 50% and I think he deserves it. Khan is not the only reason this would be a massive commercial event, it takes two to Tango. If Khan fought Guerrero or Alexander it would not be a massive commercial event. The fact that it would be against Kell and for a title makes a huge difference. Kell against someone else (besides Floyd/Pacquiao etc) wouldn't be a huge event. Khan against someone else (besides Floyd/Pacquiao etc) would not be a huge event. They are both responsible for this being a big event so 50/50 is fair imo.
     
  4. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Other than speed, Khan is nothing special. He was never anything special.
     
  5. Tony Yeboah

    Tony Yeboah Active Member Full Member

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    Khan was giving away tickets for a very rare fight in England whereas Brooks sells out 13000 easily against nobodies. Brooks fan base has doubled with that win and will only grow as the Sky hype machine gets behind him, especially if he fights someone decent and looks good in December. Who is hyping Khan in the UK? He is a known entity and that for getting knocked out and been disliked, also he hasn't beaten a top 15 welterweight and has some bad losses on his record. Hearn is going to seriously throw is weight behind Kell with Froch on the way out. I would also say on the success of the Froch Groves fight the third "person" who is marketable in this fight is the event itself, the whole world praised the show and this will contribute to hype and sales massively.

    I would also say because this fight is two UK fighters, UK time, Khans US "appeal", is not a massive factor, especially after Brook has just become the first British fighter to take the title in America for nearly 30 years, whilst not nearly as well known as Khan, he is the up and coming, undefeated fighter.
     
  6. Tony Yeboah

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    Very fast and exciting, became hugely popular fast because of this and the support of Asian community. If he was ever going to be anything special, he certainly blew it with his lousy attitude and arrogance.
     
  7. big_daddy

    big_daddy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    as I said earlier he sells **** all tickets in this country so his position isn't that strong at all, personally hope kell gets a good win in December and Floyd fights him instead, brook v khan would never happen before khan had a chance to fight mayweather
     
  8. Dragon Punch

    Dragon Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol Brook will never get to fight Floyd in a million years - Brook will never meet the criteria to face Mayweather on PPV in the MGM grand. Floyd probably doesn't Even know he exists anyway.

    How often has khan fought over here recently Diaz and McCluskey is all I can think of as he has been headlining in the states and appearing as chief support in the Mayweather fight which is the biggest global boxing event of the year.

    If Amir tells Brook 'no fight' then Kell is fcuked as that is his only chance of a mega money earner before he loses the belt. Khan with his powerful backers and his big money US tv contract can continue to earn millions fighting Thurman, Guerrero, BrAdley, Garcia, Broner and not evening mentioning Mayweather and can fcuk Kell off if he wanted too. You will all see who gets the lionshare of the purse when it comes to it - Khan holds the cards
     
  9. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just a note to the people on here that said my comments about Khan's win over Collazo vs Kells over Porter was bull**** just dont know fook all about boxing.

    Collazo beat the shite out of Hatton for the last four rounds, beat up Berto , lost to a prime Mosley on points and in his last fight before Khan knocked out Ortiz in two!!

    Porter beat Alexander and Malignaggi.

    Collazo is a really good fighter but will always b the B side and would beat the shite out of Porter , Broner and all the othe B class fighters at 147.

    Peace.
     
  10. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    I cannot take you seriously Ray, if you rate Khan's win over old man Collazo to be better than Brook's win over Porter.

    Khan is not a huge deal in the UK. Sure, he has fervent Asian support (as he always had) but the UK public in general have been rather turned off by his delusions of grandeur and crass Twitter comments.

    Most boxing fans, whilst respectful of Amir's speed and the edge-of-the-seat action a Khan fight usually entails (due almost entirely to Amir's tin foil beard and the KO/TKO potential that comes with such a vulnerability) are often turned off by everything (seemingly) handed to "King Khan" on a plate... and Amir acting like it is his divine right to be treated so favourably.

    It should be a 60/40 split to Kell. He is, after all, the Champion!

    Put it this way: Amir tried to circumvent all credible opposition at WW and get a shot at Mayweather. Mayweather saw an easy payday and put Amir up as a potential opponent. Not only did Floyd got slated for it, Mayweather took note (which explains Floyd's post poll comments regarding a fight with Amir). Amir needs a win over a GENUINE WW contender or Champion, and soon!!

    If he doesn't fight Brook, then Amir is left with a far smaller payday, against someone who may very well put his dream fight with Floyd on the canvas.
     
  11. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    And we all have to accept as Gospel what you say, and damn our own opinions? Because if we do not, then that means we all know fook all about boxing?

    **** off Ray!!

    Collazo was never that good! Durable? Yes. But nothing other than that!

    His best win is the preposterously overrated Ortiz..other than that, Collazo's record is one of mediocrity and honourable defeats.

    Porter's wins over Paulie and DA are comfortably on a par with anyone Luis beat (not to mention the fact that when Amir fought Collazo, Luis was well past prime).
     
  12. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yeah i was preaching a bit , must admit.

    Just dont think Porter was or is all that and Collazo is a better fighter.
     
  13. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    :good

    That's fair enough Ray mate.
     
  14. Solaris

    Solaris Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    People confuse notoriety with popularity. Tyson Fury, for example, is notorious. Is he popular? Of course not. As the headline act, David Haye, in the same division as Tyson was able to sell out arenas in minutes; whilst despite months and months of relentless build-up Tyson was barely able to get the Phones 4 U half sold and that was despite a 17 fight undercard.

    Amir is much the same. He’s as famous for his china chin and Skype exploits as he is for his boxing. He’s fought sparingly in recent years, preferring to mouth at boxers rather than actually get in the ring and even when he has he’s looked poor in his last few fights, Collazo aside. He may well be on huge cards in the States, but these are broadcast at stupid o’clock and on an obscure channel that not many watch in the UK.

    Reality is he a long way from the superstar that his fans seem to believe he is. He is a draw in the States as he’s exciting to watch, but in the UK, for the most part, he’s actively disliked.

    Given a Brook – Khan fight would be on these shores you cannot possibly pretend Amir would have the overwhelming support. It simply wouldn’t be the case.
     
  15. I Shot JR

    I Shot JR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Khan is obviously has the bigger name mainly down his Olympic exploits and boxing on terrestrial TV for a chunk of his career. Is he a big draw? Probably not based in ticket sales in this country. That's not to say the fight couldn't be made into something big with Sky behind it.

    I think Wembley is a bit of a pipe dream- the logical big stadium where this could be held is Old Trafford because of where both fighters are from.