Brook has the belt , but Khan is the draw

I might be wrong, I'm wrong quite often according to my wife...

I am sure I remember reading Khan's team went back to Sky last minute and were reluctantly open to Sky 1 and Sky turned them down (because of logistics, it was just to late)... but as I said, I'm often wrong and I do seem a little punchy these days.

Anyway one thing those events do tell us is Sky did not think Khan was a big enough draw for PPV then and as said on here Khan's numbers do not lie, he is nowhere near the "draw" people think he is.

 

Well said Sir!!

 

Are you suggesting that were Kell to beat Khan, then Brook would still have no chance of a fight with Floyd? And Khan is almost certain to be Floyd's May opponent? I believe that is nonsense on both counts.

If Khan is such a huge name in the US then surely a Brook win over Khan would provide Kell with the required exposure? And I do believe that you may be underestimating just how popular and well known Kell is in both the UK and USA. Many US posters were fulsome in their praise for Porter pre-fight and all sorts of early KO's were predicted..I can guarantee you those guys know who Kell Brook is now!!

Come to that, Hatton was not a huge name in the US prior to his fight with Floyd, as Ricky had two underwhelming wins over Collazo (who was good at the time) and Urango and a early ko win over a Castillo on US soil!

You know Dragon, I regularly read your posts and often I am in complete agreement, but on this occasion I must disagree with you.

Brook has already done more at WW than Amir has, by virtue of the fact that he has just beat a previously undefeated, GENUINE World Champion American, in the USA. Khan has beat no-one relevant at WW! Yes, I agree, Amir is a big draw in the US (you guys are gullible like that) but even allowing for Khan's so-called status and American gullibility, when Khan-vs-Mayweather was first proposed, Mayweather got slated for it. Floyd then stated that Amir needed a credible win (and preferably hold a portion of the WW title) before the fight could be made. And a victory over a faded B level former champ like Collazo simply will not suffice!!

As for Kell Brook, he can make very nice money regardless of HBO/Showtime, fighting those ranked in the IBF due to the rankings being so ****ed up!!

Bottom line: Brook-vs-Khan SHOULD be made, and I believe it shall be made (for May next year). But I would not be surprised if Amir swerves this match-up and continues to fight (with respect) nobodies in an attempt to protect his number 1 WBC Ranking, with the foolish belief that they can force Floyd to fight him as a mandatory.

One more thing Dragon mate: Were you serious when you said that Khan fighting a nobody in December will be a headline/PPV event in the USA?

Christ, you guys must have more money than sense!! Thank God for good old fashioned British commonsense!!

 

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Amir may be some kind of megastar in the USA (though I sincerely doubt it) but the British have him sussed.

As you rightly said, the numbers do not lie.

 

We're talking P4P number 1 with only a few fights left, I would be disgusted if one was wasted on Khan, who has a disgusting sense of self entitlement but more importantly, fights twice a year and has done nothing of note in the last 3 years. If he beats a genuine top 10 followed by Brook, I'd agree, and even that is mainly due to the style been interesting. To say he has already earned it now is just daft pal.

Just read this back and had to edit. " Khan's more than deserving of a shot at Mayweather", you are utterly clueless. Khan woudlnt deserve a shot at BROOK if there wasnt so much money involved.

 

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Well said Sir!!

It seems even some Americans are unaware that the majority of their fellow countrymen have wised up to Khan's smoke and mirrors!!

If Brook-vs-Khan is made, who needs the Yanks?

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It would boil my **** to thermonuclear temperatures if Khan got a crack at Floyd without fighting anyone elite at WW!! The arrogant, deluded little twat has done naff all at WW to deserve that fight!!!:fire

Floyd has already said that Amir needs a victory over a credible WW before he will be considered as a possible opponent, so hopefully, he will stick to that.

 

Khan should fight more, you won't have any complaint from me on that issue. However, his one year break from boxing seemed to do him some good. Diaz and Collazo weren't good and meaningful wins?

I would like to see the Brook fight. I was on here saying i would have preferred it to the Collazo fight. If he beats Guerrero or Devon, names that have come from his own mouth, he doesn't need to beat anyone else to 'deserve' a shot at Mayweather.

You're telling me Marquez, Ortiz and Guerrero are more deserving than Khan? Ortiz quit against Maidana, moves up after a couple of fights, beats Berto and gets his shot. Guerrero skips the light welterweight division, beats Berto and Aydin, gets a shot at Mayweather. Marquez did the same but he fought no-one at Welterweight and got a shot at Mayweather.

If Khan doesn't deserve a shot at Brook, then why do you want him to fight Brook? How come you're vehemently opposed to a khan fight with Mayweather when it also would generate a lot of money?

 

spot on as ive said before the khan takes on the best myth again arguebly best 2 fighters he has faced he has lost to and ano ppl say peterson drugs cheat khab used his usual dirty tricks pullin head dwn(gets away with this constant)pushin and 2 b fair peterson is bang average khan is a fraud

 

khan has fought bums for 3 YEARS

 

The fact that people would accept Mayweather fight either Khan or Brook is sad, just shows how much **** that coward gets away with, It should Pacquiao, GGG, Cotto 2 Bradley is more deserving as well, **** Khan, Garcia and Brook Mayweather shouldn't be fighting this level of opposition, the guys calls himself the Best Ever people shouldn't be so accepting off his weak opponents.

 

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Just think if he had balls how much money pac v floyd would have generated

 

Great post- I'm A brit by the way mate.

Khan is likely to fight Robert Guerreo next who's hardy a nobody - infact He's a better fighter then Porter.

If kell was to beat Khan then no he still wouldn't get a sniff at a Mayweather fight. Just because you beat a marquee name doesn't make you a marquee fighter. Mayweather will just go on and fight other GBP/AL Haymon fighters such Garcia, Thurman etc who all bring much more money then Kell could ever bring.

Kell did great last week but the fact is the fight went pretty much unnoticed even over here - it wasn't even covered by BBC radio. As for the states the ratings on showtime bombed big time.

Khan has only just stepped up to Welter and he has already beaten Collazo who would easily be Kells second best opponent if he fought him. Diaz was set over 140 limit and he would also be Kells second best opponent if he fought him - doesnt say a lot for Kells record bless him

You say that Collazo won't suffice to get khan a MAyweather fight but your not factoring in that they have the same manager/Promoter in Haymon who of course is going to do what's necessary to get the fight on..if Collazo wasn't going to be good enough then they would have got somebody else. khan was paid over 1m US to appear on the undercard to help set up the fight...hell of a waste of money if he wasn't going to face Amir at a later date.

Mayweather doesn't do Mandatories and the WBC don't dare even attempt to enforce them which is why he still holds their belt at light middle as well as Welter - he fights when and against whom he wants.

I have nothing against khan v Brook its a great fight if it happend BUT people need to accept that Khan will have to be paid the bigger piece of the pie - you will all see this as nod when it happens.

 

Great post- I'm A brit by the way mate.

Khan is likely to fight Robert Guerreo next who's hardy a nobody - infact He's a better fighter then Porter.

If kell was to beat Khan then no he still wouldn't get a sniff at a Mayweather fight. Just because you beat a marquee name doesn't make you a marquee fighter. Mayweather will just go on and fight other GBP/AL Haymon fighters such Garcia, Thurman etc who all bring much more money then Kell could ever bring.

Kell did great last week but the fact is the fight went pretty much unnoticed even over here - it wasn't even covered by BBC radio. As for the states the ratings on showtime bombed big time.

Khan has only just stepped up to Welter and he has already beaten Collazo who would easily be Kells second best opponent if he fought him. Diaz was set over 147 limit and he would also be Kells second best opponent if he fought him - doesnt say a lot for Kells record bless him

You say that Collazo won't suffice towards getting khan a MAyweather fight but your not factoring in that they have the same manager/Promoter in Haymon who of course is going to do what's necessary to get the fight on..if Collazo wasn't going to be good enough then they would have got somebody else. khan was paid over 1m US to appear on the undercard to help set up the fight...hell of a waste of money if he wasn't going to face Amir at a later date. If khan beats Guerreo or ALexander I believe the fight is nailed on.

Mayweather doesn't do Mandatories and the WBC don't dare even attempt to enforce them which is why he still holds their belt at light middle as well as Welter - he fights when and against whom he wants.

I have nothing against khan v Brook its a great fight if it happens BUT people need to accept that Khan will have to be paid the bigger piece of the pie - you will all see this as and when negotiations start.

 

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