Brook in terrific shape!

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  1. rooq

    rooq Rooq's Boxing Promoter Full Member

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    does look a bit odd. Perhaps he has a really long neck and his face is just a lot closer to the camera than the rest of his body :think
     
  2. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    Are we talking about Kell?
     
  3. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    Well Brook when in trouble with Jones still won some of those rounds so he has shown when chips are down he's not just a flat track bully although people can say Jones is a lower standard it still did show Brook's mentally stronger then people would hope he is. He's got more to prove then Alexander but punches in bunches whilst grunting and angles that were controlled by Matthysse and Kotelnik as well Bradley i don't think hold any fears for Kell.

    Speed can be beaten by timing espicially with the crisp straight punches Kell has and Devon's lack of defence with upperbody and hands i think he will have issues with Kell if and it is a big IF Kell gets his feet close enough as Devon uses his feet for defence. Kell has to be on point but i think he will. Lot of people on this forum overate Devon espicially around time he beat Urango. Plenty had him down to beat Bradley in good fashion as well.

    It's a even fight, I take Kell to step up and win in good fashion.
     
  4. JFT96

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    Each of them three opponents who have beaten Alexander have different attributes to their game though which have enabled them to disrupt Devon. Kell doesn't have the physical strength to muscle his way inside or the sharp foot movement required to put Alexander in the positions where he doesn't want to be. Let's face it, all we've seen from Brook thus far is the ability to work sharply off his excellent jab and decent counter punching. Neither of these are going to play a significant part in this fight in my opinion.

    Nobody Brook has fought has anywhere near the speed of foot and of hands as Alexander has and this can seriously hurt Kell if he fights as he's accustomed to. It's easy to say timing beats speed and of course we've seen that plenty of times before, but crucially we've never had the chance to see it with Brook. When Alexander is not facing someone looking to get up to his chest and crowd him, he controls range very well IMO with those flashy flurries and I think he can do that successfully vs Brook, who as always will look to dictate from behind the jab. It's a completely different proposition to any Brook's faced before and a big step up that I doubt he's ready for.

    Alexander may have been overrated previously but you don't need to do so to present a goodcase as to why he beats Brook.
     
  5. JFT96

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    The Carson Jones fight doesn't really hold any relevance to this fight either to be honest. Stylistically they couldn't be more different and it will be harder for Brook to come through any big difficulties against Alexander than it was to come through vs Carson.
     
  6. SkillspayBills

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    It does hold relevance when speaking of controlling a fight then regaining it. Anyone who thinks Jones is stylistically like Alexander is blind there nothing alike.

    Although Jones is size and style does mean when facing difficulties he's more likely to more damage then Devon who's content to just box and cause you technical difficulties rather then physical ones.

    For Brook's unanswered questions, Devon's operated at higher level yes but some questions he's never answered whilst operating at this level.

    So it remains a intriguing battle, a even one but a fight that Kell can win due to his style and ability. But also Alexander can win.
     
  7. The_Sugar_Man

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    WTF dude ? surely a joke post :lol:
     
  8. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    And you do for Brook? All it seems to be is he's not fought anyone at this level. True talk but doesn't mean he can't perform at this level. Seen a number of fighters of the years step up to the plate so don't see why Brook can't he's got the ability and old enough to handle the situation it's not like he's a baby like BJS.

    I don't see why Brook stylisitcally cannot has success against Alexander you tell me he controls range very well. Well he didn't do it on 3 occassions and it wasn't as if Matthysse and Kotelnik just mauled there way in. Alexander's flashy punches are just that and it allows for people to home in on him.

    He's a good fighter, it's a step up but you've said in another thread it's a big, big step up. Not it's a step up, yeah can accept big but it's hardly fighting Mayweather or Pacquiao.

    Alexander circles to the left, Brook can work the jab over the top of Alexanders dipped right hand. He can also hook off it to keep Alexander in position for the right hand.

    Alexander grunts which is a terrible habit which a precise aggressive counter puncher preys on and Brook once again can have success here. Alexander's use of his feet is key to him having success as he can make Brook reset and adjust angles and shoot in with his flurries and off at a angle. Brook's feet aren't the lightest and he may at times get caught stationary and then resestting.

    Alexander's body punches will land Brook's not the best defensively and the body does get neglected at times, He will use them to turn Brook but when he leans and falls out of position Brook's a sharp fighter and can land counters.

    Both men have a habit of dropping off the pace, Brook starts extremely well then drops off the gas. Alexander starts fast with snappy punches then has a habit of losing snap and practically arm punching. He's not displayed his punch power for a very long time. Maybe he will on the night as Brook's defensively naive at times. Brook will have to perform at his best level to win no doubts but it's achievable.

    Kotelnik controlled Alexander's movements simply but pressing but keeping foot on outside and laying back slightly. The jab was successful and he even countered the speed of Alexander. Even Matthysse controlled the movement of Alexander..

    Brook's got a better variety of punches then Kotelnik and is a bigger man so it's not like it's mission impossible. Alexander no doubts will have learned and improved on those nights but sometimes speed struggles and sometimes styles puzzle fighters. Alexander isnt the thinking fighter, He's more of a physical talent..

    I think Brook can win this fight, But as i mentioned in previous post it's a even fight. Both men can win...

    My post be slightly siding towards Brook's strengths but that's due to others doing same for Alexander.
     
  9. DrMo

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    ^Good post Skills

    It will be interesting to see how significant Brook's size & strength advantage will be, if at all.
     
  10. SkillspayBills

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    Thanks Mo :good, Yes i'm wondering that myself. Exciting intriging fight but i think Kell can do it and do us all proud.
     
  11. DrMo

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    Recently rewatched Brook-Jones & Brook-Saldvia & there really is a marked difference in appearance between the 2.

    Kell's upperbody, especially his chest, shoulders & back are much more developed(no homo). He looks physically stronger as well, vs Jones he was getting outmuscled & marched backward in the clinches. vs Saldiva Kell was able to just bump him off when in close & he shoved him to canvas at one point.

    His punches had a bit more snap in them & his movement seemed a little better too. Hopefully his stamina has improved as well because against Jones he was blowing hard after 4 rounds & in the last 4 rounds (with a broken nose tbf) he had very little energy. vs Alexander Kell needs to be fit, strong & able to work hard for 12 rounds.
     
  12. Primadonna Kool

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  13. Lazarus

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    I've got Alexander in a straight forward UD, if not, a late T/KO. Experience shall play it's role.
     
  14. SkillspayBills

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    Why's that PK?.
     
  15. 20a87

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    Alexander won't have the heart for a tough fight.