brook/spence ggg/jacobs canelo/chavez

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by The Shockmaster, Feb 11, 2017.


  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    The plan imo was to:

    1. Collect Brooks biggest payday
    2. Try to do the impossible and have a WW move up and Dethrone the hardest MW puncher.
    3. If it seemed unlikely that Brook was going to win, pull the plug on the fight.

    What happed:

    1. Brook got his payday (got paid more than GGG)
    2. I believe he truly attempted to win between rds 1-4
    3. Stopped the fight as soon as the fight looked like it was going downhill for Brook.
     
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  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Golovkin has been a pro 11 years, his resume is garbage. His records are second-hand store quality.
    Spence has ONLY been a pro 4 years and is closing in on GGG in terms of quality opponents.
     
  3. kirk

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    Looking forward to all three... brook spence is a hell of a matchup, winner deserves his accolades. G vs Jacobs... Its number 1 vs number 2 between two guys with big power... add to it that G is hittable, and Jacobs has the power to hurt him, should make for an exciting night one way or another, and whoever wins will score the biggest win of their career, which is always nice.

    Canelo Chavez, while a lackluster fight prestigiously speaking, promises to be engaging and if Jr still has something left, should be surprisingly competitive.

    Add Wlad Aj, Thurman Garcia, and some others im failing to recall at the moment, and its shaping up to be a decent year.
     
  4. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    He's a smooth troll, notice how for GGG fight he asks if this is a real test but for Canelo fight if he will make money lmao
    He should be asking if this is a REAL test for Canelo and the answer is no because this is a blatant cherrypick joke of a fight.

    Like Canelo needs more money? He's been making truckload and this clown still worries about Canelo's finances :loel::loel:
     
  5. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Probably.
    He is darker than me too, but I'm better than him.
    There are levels to this "darkness" thing.
     
  6. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think all 3 are fairly interesting my opinion, Brook-Spence is a chance for both guys to prove they're the goods. Kell only has one real win and is just barley more tested than Spence. Spence has a chance to knock off one of the more hyped guys at 47 and win his first title a lot is at stake for both fighters, think Spence might stop him in a competitive bout.

    GGG-Jacobs is on a similar level dispite his title's Golovkin has beaten no one of real quality, Jacobs isn't elite but is currently #2 in a bad division and is the best MW fight that can be made barring a Canelo fight. I think Golovkin wins due to a weak chin on Jacobs part but whoever lands and makes in impression 1st will tell a lot.

    Canelo-Chavez while not as important towards the division is a fan friendly matchup, and if Chavez comes in determined should be a great one I think Alvarez wins a hard fought division or late body stoppage in a FOTY candidate.
     
  7. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Brook will be his only good opponent but apparently his resume is also cap so in the grand scheme of things Spence going by your logic shouldn't get any credit if he beats Brook because Brook has beaten no one as well.

    Regarding GGG he has been ducked his whole career at 160, the ginger whinger has recently proved this as when Golovkin is mentioned he's a 154/155 fighter but suddenly can go to 165 for Chavez LOL....and you have the audacity to excuse him.

    And before you start I'm a Canelo fan, but he's a bit.h in regards to Golovkin.
     
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  8. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    there is no trolling..im asking questions of ESG.....you obviously cant follow because you are dumb as rocks...so let me slow it down for you

    before ggg/jacobs was signed and it appeared it might not get done this is what we heard from golovkin fans "jacobs aint worth money hes a bum that got sent to the canvas by sergio mora...SERGIO MORA!!!! he dont sell anywhere either"......so Im asking these same clowns(you) if its a legit fight now...is jacobs a top level opponent? before he was getting knocked down by a featherfisted MW

    before canelo/chavez was signed....golovkin fans insisted that canelo needed golovkin...t.hat there werent any good money/name fights for him "canelo needs golovkin....his fans will turn their backs....he cant make any real money without golovkin".....but then......chavez signs to fight canelo and presto you have a fight that potentially sells pretty well and makes some money.......

    no one is trolling or trying to drop double standards...im asking questions to issues i saw the last time i was here.....you obviously cant answer them without incriminating yourself
     
  9. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    your argument/stance has been beaten down so badly you are resorting to "well then...well...by your logic if spence beats brook he shouldnt get any credit cause u say brooks resume stinks"...lolol

    the simple point is...spence is 26 and already looking to make a jump that neither brook or golovkin made .....but that was never my point in the first place...i wasnt hear to big up spence...never did I....you just tried to flip the script and make spence an issue
     
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  10. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    You've not broken anything down and is my alleged "well then/well"....whatever that is supposed to mean. You are doing the exact same thing with Spence that you complain Golovkin fans for doing with GGG.

    Irrespective of their age Spence has fought NO ONE, whilst Golovkin has dominated a division, closing in on all the records, unified the belts and been avoided like the plague. Just look at Canelo, could only fight at Caneloweight but has now jumped up to his new division of super Caneloweight to avoid Golovkin.

    Regarding Brook.......guys resume is littered with trash other than porter..one good win at WW and he 30 plus fights deep...then a farce of a fight at MW when his team stopped it at first sign that there might be trouble

    Your words, you obviously don't rate him so even if Spence was to win he should get no credit and still be regarded as a hype job.
     
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  11. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    im not doing anything with spence...i never hyped spence up in this thread other than saying hes "high risk/low reward" for brook at this point......and we arent going to toss out the age factor because AGE IS A FACTOR.....spence is already looking to do more than both brook and golovkin already!!!! but that was never my point or issue....you took it there......I never made this thread or made any mention of spence being some top p4p monster....thats all in your head because you need to change the fact of the matter around
     
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  12. Roger_Ramjet

    Roger_Ramjet Member banned Full Member

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    Don't worry, Shockmaster, you're entrance was as good as always. ;)
     
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  13. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    But Spence won't be doing anything because you've already said Brook has faced nothing but bums so even if Spence destroys him it won't mean anything according to your logic as Brook has only faced bums.

    And let me know how beating Brook, if he does, has him closing in on Golovkin, LOL.
     
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  14. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    beating brook, on his home turf, would be better than anything golovkin has done...for sure....

    but im still having a hard time figuring out your point...because as ive mentioned several times to you already in the last 10 minutes...i havent hyped up spence...i said hes high risk/low reward(if youve ever watched him fight youd know this...he passes an eye test and looks tough).....

    im simply working off the opinion of golovkin fans once again....yall insisted brook was great....so great that he was even going to be real good as MW because he didnt belong at WW ....hes was "boiling".....but somehow hes talking about going back...weird? im going off the opinion i heard from ggg fans before/after ggg/brook
     
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  15. dinovelvet

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    The WBA wouldn't even sanction his last fight cos his opponent was so poor. Those are the fights he walks away from Andre Ward for lololol