Bruns broke Johnson's ribs and was ill when they meet? This book says so

What it means is the author of this drivel did not do his research ,otherwise he would have known McIntosh refereed the Burns /Lang heavyweight title bout, just 3 months previously.

Just under 3 months before he fought Johnson ,Burns scaled 174lbs for the Lang defence, that is only 5 .5lbs more than he weighed for the Johnson fight, it is reasonable to assume that Burns perceived Johnson as a much greater threat to his title than Lang,and would therefore have trained accordingly.

Burns in fact expressed deep satisfaction about his condition and the hard work he had put in during no holds barred sparring sessions with big Al Kaufmann.
You picked out Burns heaviest weight as a champion, for a title defence against Squires, a man he had previously kod in 1 and a half minutes.

It is further reasonable to assume Burns would not whip himself in to the tip top condition he was in for the Johnson defence , just to fight a man he had allready blown away in a minute and a half.

Burns never at any time, after his defeat of Johnson offered illness of any kind as an excuse for his defeat, if he was ill, do you not think he would have mentioned it after the fight?
If you want to persist in this false crap ,please show primary sources that prove Burns was ill, had jaundice /yellow fever,or any other imaginary ailments.
You like to quote Kevin Smith, but weren't so keen when he came on here and told you you were exaggerating ,and distorting his statements .

Hopefully he may be made aware, you are back up to your old tricks again.

What comments have you to make about the author's assertion that Jeffries openly confessed to Burns, he ducked Johnson.

What response from you about Jeffries statement that, "I have no use for any living n****r"?

It might interest you to know that the author of this claptrap, and a Canadian to boot, as late as 1974 ,when he says he was making his living as a sports writer, states he not only did not know Johnson took the title off of Burns, he did not even know of Burns existence .

I knew, and could repeat all the heayweight champions names in chronological order when I was in short trousers.

You might also be interested to know that the source of much of the inaccurate tosh,the author used ,is non other than Larry Cap Roberts ,himself a total wanker who repeats well worn cliches and fables without ever troubling to verify their veracity.

 

Trying to translate your chimp writing is getting more difficult each day,most people improve with practise ,you do not.
The author of this crap states that Burns was rarely above 172lbs ,any comments on that?
Burns scaled 174lbs for his fight with Lang ,under 3 months before he fought Johnson.That is five and a half pounds more than he weighed for the Johnson fight, I know you cannot write ,but I assumed you could count.

You posted this authors drivel because you thought you could use it as a stick to beat Johnson with yet again ,unfortunately for you, everyone has sided against you on this thread ,and you are once again left looking the severely ******ed Rainman that you are

Please show a primary source that confirms Burns was ill for the fight,otherwise your clap trap is just so much bombastic bull****.

 

I call the author a lazy, incompetent fool, who did not do his research.
Want some more examples?
Page 227. Joe Beckett a 6'2"220lb giant was 13 years younger than Burns.
Beckett was 5'9",only an inch and threequarters taller than Burns.
Beckett scaled 184lbs for the Burns fight 3 POUNDS LESS than the 187lbs Burns.
Beckett was 28 Burns was 39,11 years older not 13.

Thats three mistakes on just one page, he's about on a par with you
I have Johnson's auto biography, there is no mention of cracked ribs in it ,or of urinating blood. In the book ,Johnsons says "the fight was one of the easiest of the more important fights of my career,at no time did Burns have a show with me".
I also have Joe Louis's autobiography there is no reference to Johnson telling him that he urinated blood after the Burns fight.
I think you need to get a primary source for all these fairy tales,one considerably more reliable than Mr McCaferry.

 

You post a thread entitled
"Bruns broke Johnson's ribs and was ill when they meet ".


Make a post that starts.

" I have been telling you many of the book you cling to have mistakes"

And you call me dumbass?

You have extreme difficulty writing a ****ing sentence in anything remotely resembling legible English.atsch
If I had one iota of respect for you, I would be embarrassed on your behalf

 

Can you explain why the author states Jewey Smith was Jewish,and that Burns was the first heavyweight Champion to defend against one of the Jewish faith.
Jewey [Joe] Smith was not Jewish at all,he came from Aldgate London a Jewish area at that time, but he was C. of. E.
Another mistake for your "author".
By the way Burns weighed 170lbs when he fought Jim Flynn,that is only a pound and a half more than he scaled for the Johnson fight,do you think he was ill?

 

Another mistake your Author refers to Peter Felix as East Indian[page 140], Felix was a West Indian. Born in St Croix ,West Indies.

 

I honestly think it's fair to conclude that mcvey has **** all over the author's reputation here unless, of course, mcvey has made up these errors hoping noone will check the info themselves (i'll give mcvey the benefit of the doubt here).

 

What really pissed me off with this guy is in his blurb he states he was researching this book for 2 decades.I found these errors in minutes.
Anyone doubting I am right can easily check ,as I myself did.

 

I share your anger there. Guys with very little knowledge claim otherwise and write up a book that they charge for when it's littered with easily checked mistakes.

Did he even proof-read his work?

When the reader knows more than the author it just really takes the **** imo

 

I think a boxing biography should be a neutral and objective look at the boxer and this book is not. He is on a mission to clear Burns's reputation and in the process makes him out to have been a greater fighter than he ever was.

I'm not going to criticize the author though because he clearly had good intentions, Burns did get torn apart for doing what he should have which is to defend the world's heavyweight title against the best possible challenger.

 

Burns was not on any crusade, he defended against Johnson because he received the unheard of ,[at the time,] figure of $30,000.Johnson got just $5000 and had to pay his expenses out of that.

Burns might well have defended against McVey instead of Johnson ,but McVey's backers could not come up with the $$$$

After the fight Johnson stayed in Australia and did personal appearances ,sang songs, played the bass viol and struck boxing poses he earned more from these engagements than he did for the fight.
Burns too stayed" Down Under", while his Wife sailed for home, he blew all his purse on the trotting ponies.

I criticize the author because in his mission to promote Burns, he spins the Johnson defence into a close fight when it was nothing of the sort.

Burns closest friend ,the promoter and referee of the fight McIntosh stated in print that Johnson handled Burns like a baby
The author has written an overblown tale that is inaccurate and full of falsehoods, much more so than the books on the subject that preceded his ,and that he now so roundly criticizes.

He blames Burns reputation on the "racist white American press".I submit he has done nothing to rehabilitate it with this pocketfull of myths, and distortions.
I believe it is his first venture into writing a book on boxing ,let us hope it is his last.

 

The heavyweight champion of the world was 5'7" and weighed 168? How did this happen? Was there a plague? a famine? Were the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse loose and running rampant? I'm going to the library and brush up on my history.

I watched the Burns-Johnson video and couldn't believe my eyes. The video was pretty grainy so I couldn't see much, but it kinda looked like a case of child abuse.

I don't like to watch Johnson because it's always a bore-fest. I'll acknowledge he was a great fighter, but damned if I'll give him any credit for beating little Tommy Burns.

 

Brush up on your history and chide yourself for such a pitiful conclusion.

Perhaps johnson should have ducked burns eh?

 

Whoa, Luf. LOL. You'll hurt your back jumping to those kinds of conclusions. Johnson chased Burns around the world for two years to get his title. I give him credit for that. But my little sister could have taken that little Burns fellow apart, so I give him no credit for that.