Brutal Purgation: Does Boxing Serve As A Violent Catharsis-Is It Good for Our Souls?

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I can't speak for others but for me watching boxing is simply entertainment. I like it because of the skills, the tactics, different styles, different ways a fighters can win or lose a fight or round. I have never felt less angry/violent after watching boxing and it has never seemed like any form of therapy tbh.

I can see how actually participating in boxing could calm someone down and be a release for anger/violent urges though.

 

I'm aware that you appreciate skill, but with this thread you're saying that the purpose of skill is to more effectively inflict violence, while I'm saying the essence of boxing is overcoming and in fact rejecting more than embracing violence.

With this specific topic, I think there is no personal psychological realisation or growth for a boxer in taking a punch to land one, but he does gain confidence and fulfillment if he uses his intellect, imagination, etc to aestheticise his skill into a uniqe style that manages to best other skilled boxers. The Freudian parallel is the desire to hit the opponent even if it means getting hit as the Super ego; the restraining force of avoiding contact as the Id; while the Super Ego is the resolved, aware self a boxer attains through discovering how to more or less effectively hit without getting hit. Flamazide already expressed as much as is necessary on a boxing forum that acting out in violence is not a catharsis from the desire for violence. Exposure to violence breeds violence acts. It's pure destructive Id. It's only getting beyond violence that can be a catharsis.

No, I wasn't initially drawn to boxing because I enjoyed watching two guys beat each other up. I had no interest in boxing or associating with the type of guys who were into boxing when I was a kid, and thought it was only Tyson and pointlessly punching. It was only when I was 17 and became aware of the strategy and tactics of boxing that it drew me in. Put most fights in front of someone who hasn't watched boxing before and they'll probably ask why they're ducking and moving around around more than punching. And if they're curious about why like I was they're want to learn more and watch more. It's no so outlandish.

 

On a related note: since I quit masturbating I've become less anxious, and more energetic, more confident, and happier.

 

surely, you must realize how ridiculous that sounds. if you want to avoid violence, the surest strategy is to avoid getting in the ring.
that would make for such great entertainment, 2 guys in a ring doing everything they possibly can to avoid violence.atsch

 

Alright, now that I'm sober and awake let's get back into this. Before I begin though allow me to say two things. First, this is a very refreshing discussion and I'm surprised that it's happening on this forum. I'm going to remember you. Second, I am new to forums in general and I have no idea how you were able to quote me multiple times like that lol.

1. Yeah, I will concede that it can be found in sports. What gives this effect in the first place is the passion, which can be found in anything. But it is subjective and because of that I just find it pointless to discuss. Some people don't even experience this feeling with anything at all. I will say, firmly, that it is not typically associated with sports. It is a difference to most people. It's like comparing love to lust. But again, subjective and no way to prove.

2. Haha what is there to add for this?

3. Oh no doubt; I'm not saying it is a definite thing. A person has a choice always. It's just that with more exposure to violent acts most people are more prone to behave violently. This is not debatable. There are no absolutes in dealing with you mind. You're clearly have an interest in psychology so this point here isn't anything new to you. I never said it makes one behave a certain way 100% of the time. I just said you are more prone to it.

4.No. You do not have to behave violently. You don't have to do anything. That's the beauty of consciousness. People often behave violently because it is easier, but that doesn't mean one has to do that.

5. When I say violent acts I meant the act of participating itself, not observing and one has to factor in why a person is competing or observing the first place to get a gauge on how it would affect them. So we all on some level like to watch people punch other people. Some of us like to be the ones punching. That in itself makes us a bit savage in that context. Really though, it doesn't mean anything.

 

Very true I go to my local gym do the training and a bit of light sparing as iam getting on a bit never have any body giving it the Barrys all good natured.if I miss a trip I don't feel right uptight and snapy .the sparing is very thrilling I think after even if I come off second best which is often I feel good sets me up for the week .The macho men idiot type don't normally go to boxing gyms someone might make them look foolish their egos wouldn't stand it.

 

I started to like boxing because of personalites at first they were flashy I grew up in Ali era float like a butterfly...............rumble young man rumble. I want to be like that guy. yeah.

I would like wilder to take a face deforming fight club beat down. but In general I like a one punch knock out for sure.

but I dont like rios vs alverado, Ali vs holmes, perez vs amojahadod. both of those fighters received brain damage. and probably rios and alvarado.

Most fighters I understand it is a profession they have chosen and have familes and what not. So i still say im a skills guy dont want any maimed or brain damaged. (not even wilder)