I think Roach is out of touch too, and he doesn't give a **** enough Pac anymore. In the Horn fight there was not one protest over the reffing. And then after the fight he threw Pac under the bus by calling him faded and saying he should retire. I got the distinct feeling that Roach no longer speaks to Pac's heart and mind. Buboy on the other brought Pac just a Lil bit closer to the Pac of old. He told him to step on the gas, be the first to initiate which is something Roach stopped doing long ago.