Buddy McGirt: What happened to this guy?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BigReg, Jun 11, 2008.


  1. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    What about his son? He's been developing him since he was a kid. That didn't stop him from getting his ass kicked not too long ago.

    What about Malignaggi? He's a young fighter and he's seeme to regress under McGirt.

    Litzau was a lost cause, I don't blame Buddy for that one.
     
  2. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Really? He bares no responsiblity for when his fighters lose, even when they are the overwhelming favorite? If that's the case, then why hire this guy? Why spend good money on a trainer if he can't have a material affect on your performance?
     
  3. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    One thing I can say about that is, show me one trainer who can teach "Chin"?
     
  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Malignaggi's problem is his chin? The same with his son? I admitted that Litzau wasn't his fault.
     
  5. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    You're right, sometimes buddy McCurse corner advice is completely 100% obviously stupid and common sense like, "No ****". But honestly, We aren't in the gym when we see this guy train his fighters so we don't know if its him or maybe fighters who use Buddy McCurse get a false sense of security or superiority, then they go into the fights way too confident because they have a "top notch" trainer and then they get KTFO. Whatever it is we don't know. He is obviously lossing a lot of big fights, In the end its all about training camp, a boxers own skills, and the motivation given to them by the trainer.
     
  6. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Paulies slide is his prob not Buddy's, and wasn't McGirt Jr. winning the fight at the moment when he got KTFO?

    Malignaggi's confidence is a mental thing with his hands, IMO
    it has nothing to do with Buddy's "baby" comment's...lol
    Tho he should get slapped for letting Paule come into the ring with that Mop on his head.
     
  7. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    Look all the Fighters that are trained by their fathers or relatives. These trainers may not always be the most knowledgeable trainers as they for the most part only train their 1 fighter.

    All these fighters that have their relatives training them, men who couldn't really pick up a bunch of other fighters and train them successfully, but instead only train their sons because the biggest role they play is just flat out motivation and trust. You can be the smartest trainer in the world but that isn't going to do **** for a fighter if there isn't that chemistry between fighter and coach.
     
  8. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Christ, I forgot about Litzau. :rofl

    I'll give him a pass on that one.
     
  9. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Yeah, but Buddy trains his son also and he got stopped as well. There had to be good chemistry between he and his son. What happened there?
     
  10. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Buddy had an extensive trainer camp with Lamon Brewster, for his rematch with Wlad last year, his strategy was to teach Lamon to dodge punches more and to not be so aggressive with Wlad. What the hell is Buddy thinking, I myself am a huge Brewster fan, and have been watching him fight since 2000 when I seen him fight Eitienne live, his way of fighting has always been aggressive and he rarely was defensive minded in his fights, most of the time leading with his head to find ways to counter with the left hook.

    Buddy trained him wrong and Brewster got embarrassed that night because of it, Buddy is far from a good trainer.
     
  11. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed, Buddy lame ass fight plan helped to make a warrior like Brewster quit on his stool that night, after taking 1/3 of the punishment he's used to. The keys to beating Wlad are pressure, power, and chin, Lamon had all 3, but all of them didnt show up that night, and Buddy's partly to blame.
     
  12. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mcgirt started to get massivly overrated when Gatti beat Ward in their second fight. Everyone started talking about how he turned Gatti into this master boxer. No ****, he was fighting Mickey Ward. Mcgirt is really a one dimensional trainer nothing special IMO
     
  13. emanuel_augustus

    emanuel_augustus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wait a minute, Brewster was completely shot that night. Nothing McGirt said or did was going to change that. Brewster didn't want to be there.

    McGirt is a good trainer if you need someone to teach more defensive skills and movement--he is not necessarily a good strategist or tactician. That doesn't make a him a bum.

    He would probably be much more effective as assistant trainer, brought in to work with a fighter on pure boxing skills, not to lay out their strategy. He tries to impose his own blueprint on every fighter in every situation, that simply doesn't work. Good trainers adapt, Buddy hasn't learned to yet.
     
  14. fitzgeraldz

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    Malignaggi is next ...
     
  15. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    His own son got stopped .... I think that he's a good trainer but he doesn't catch his fighters attention.