I was wondering if one was to try to add lean muscle and weight would it be better to bulk up a few pounds first before i start any boxing regime ? 5'11 145 trying to get to 160. Should i bulk first then use boxing/anerobic/cardio/etc to CUT? Because in the process of training and running i have only seen nothing but lean muscle and weight loss. I know nutrition plays a big part but any insight would be helpful
You're seeing weight loss because you are not eating enough. You can train anyway you want and still gain weight as long as the diet is on point. It doesn't look like you want to compete in boxing but bodybuild so you can bulk up without any cardio and then add some cardio to lose the fat faster when the time comes. It's up to you. You can also cut out all cardio and still cut because diet is the most important aspect of changing body composition. 5'11 145# is really light. Are you lifting weights or just running now?
Never "bulk" and "cut", they are just temporary fixes to an overall problem. It's all a lifestyle change, adop that mentality and your results will improve vastly. Just get started with your boxing, find your goals, find the most intelligent way of reaching them an take it from there. You might start boxing and feel great boxing as a 150lber. On the other hand, at 5"11 145lbs you are maybe weak as a kitten, so could do you good to fill out, start eating 3 proper meals a day for a start, and get cracking with the boxing. Lots of protein within each of those meals 50 grams or more. That's 2 pork chops, 12 eggs, two to three pints of milk, a decent sized steak, half a pound of chicken breast etc etc. Accompany this with some decent clean carbohydrates (no white bread, no white pasta, no processed bull****, no chocolate/sweets, no sodas/soft drinks) and LOTS of vegetables and fruit throughout the day, and you should do well, if you want to put on some good weight. I'd just get started with the boxing if that is your main goal, or get eating if that is your priority.
Why would you want 50 grams of protein at each meal? Your body can't absorb that much at a time, he would be far better off to eat more carbs so his protein is spared to do what it is meant to do instead of being used as energy or being stored as fat. I also don't like seeing people say that because someone is this height and only this weight then they are weak, that's a generalisation that isn't really accurate at all. I agree that he just needs to eat and exercise well and let his weight take care of itself. If that leaves him at 145 and 5'11 then that is great for boxing. Purposely trying to gain weight is pointless for an athlete unless they are a football or basketball player in certain positions. Also strongman and bodybuilding competitions.
It was just as an example of what would come under "eating enough", since that can be very skewed. It was a generalisation, and I said "may be" to cover the possibility of him being a lean mean machine.
Bulking is a term that has no meaning in boxing. Bodybuilders bulk and cut, boxers just cut. Muscle gets added should the body need it to adapt to training, not because you decide to put it on. Unless you're a 25 fight pro and want to move up a weight class, but I assume that's not the case. If boxing needs bulk, boxing will put on bulk. Just make sure you eat enough.
^^^That would be a myth. Purposely trying to gain weight as an athlete is pointless? If you don't have the strength to compete in a sport, you NEED to gain weight. Boxing is nice because of weight classes but your statement was very broad.
^ Im not a member of sherdog ..wrong person? And as far as the recommendation's,I have a nutritionist.I am familiar with some of the things i should eat and should not. my protein,carb,fat intake etc My main objective is not to compete(Im pushing 23) but to put on some weight and then get in athletic shape (Hence) boxing/basketball. Don't feel to healthy at this weight,my highest has been 180 ,i made a dramatic decrease over some years ,but my objective is 154-162. Never had a full fledged training regimen at a boxing gym(mainly using it for the equipment and some basic 101 with a trainer twice a week),But before i re-enstate my membership for one year i was considering putting on the extra pounds first.
I don't get why people "bulk up". Your body can only build muscle at a certain rate. Consuming more calories on top of that does not speed up the process, you just get fat. Realistically, if you're new to weight training you'll gain maybe 10-20lbs of muscle in your first year, after that you'd be lucky to gain over a pound of pure muscle a month. Best thing you can do is work out your calories so you're gaining about 1lb per week, that way you'll still gain fat, but at a much slower rate and you won't end up having to do the whole cutting phase for months to get rid of the pointlessly added fat. Building the amount of muscle you're talking about will take a year or two depending on how you train.
Nah that would be a fact, around 40 grams of protein is the most your body can deal with properly at one time. If you don't have the strength to compete in your sport you gain strength by strength training and plyometric training, mass doesn't equate to strength. Athletes should have a good strength to weight ratio, if you just gain mass as you get stronger you negate the benefits of the added strength, you won't really be any more powerful, just a bigger version of yourself on your frame which always stays the same size.
Just out of interest lefty where did you get this magic number of 40 from? Why not 30? Why not 50? I actually dislike the whole "get big to lift big" mentality, you are not maximising any capabilities, ESPECIALLY in a sport with weight classes, that is crazy.