bums

:blood Umm... what?

 

Yea it's right when you come into the ring, out of shape, and not ready to give it your all or quit, then your a BUM...

Hard working people pay good money to watch the fights and want to see guy's at their best, if you can't do that get the phuck out of the ring and go get a 9-5 job driving a forklift, stay your ass out of the ring...

Too many guy's today come into a fight fat or just to get a paycheck, fans want to see 2 in shape guy's giving their all, with the money they make i don't think that's asking too much:deal...

 

I don't care for the tems myself.

As Russell Crowe says in Cinderella Man, "They pay two dollars to see a man bleed and they get to call him a bum?"

 

There are exceptions, like wilder who is ranked and only fights bums.

 

I prefer the term "tomato can".

 

Yes, it's OK.

The reason journalists started using the terms "cab driver" and "bum" is that lots of fighters actually drove taxis as their day job, and some didn't even have a steady place to live.

It's just another way of saying that the champion has chosen to fight someone who not only isn't on his level, but isn't even a real professional boxer in the sense that most people intend that phrase.

 

The term "tomato can" was coined as a way of saying that a fighter bleeds easily. This was used by trainers referring to a sparring partner. Then it just became a general term for a not-so-good fighter.

 

I thought the whole "bum in the park" thing was about the guy being useless (which not a cool thing to say about a bum) not about the guy being lazy (also not a cool thing to say about a bum). Well I'm Brazilian so maybe I interpreted it wrong. If not than I guess I agree, "tomato can" might be a better expression since is not as ambiguous. Usefulness of tomato cans notwithstanding.

 

the Bum of the month club was the reporters patter at Louis' run of defences, in that he Louis was in a league of his own so to speak. he was expected to beat his opponents and this was no real slant on his opposition many of them Top Men, though there would have been a handful of them perhaps on the fringe or less.

But NO Real Bums... just Headline and Newspage patter.

footnote, more 'bums' now in that Some of the Champions and their Title Opponents aren't up to True Top Level, compared to other era's where Top Contenders faced off regularly against each other before getting near the Champ.

this NEEDS to happen again.

 

Louis took strong exception to the "Bum of the Month" club terminology (and not just because it made him look worse by marginalizing his opposition).

 

First off, you don't think the overweight 40 year old former middleweights who are basically paid to lose and make wilder look like a big bad KO artists are bums? If not I'd like you to define these bloated has beens and never wases, considering they are no threat to him at all. Secondly I agree with your definition for the most part, which is why I said there are exceptions, which clearly suggests that I agree with you, but also think that some others could be considered bums. Such as those who are pro for 5 years and former Olympic medalists who continue to fight bums, which in my opinion it is clear Wilder's completion are bums as they pose no threat. So I will help you better understand my definition since my first reply was obviously over your head.

A bum is exactly what you you defined it as, along with fighters who are fighting nobodies to pad their record, despite having way more potentiontial and being way over do for facing an opponent that poses even the slightest threat.

 

The only problem I have with the term is when the "fat, forklift-driving" *******s who have never done anything so courageous as step in a ring use the term so freely as if they're an expert on anything. They haven't earned the right, frankly.

 

I would add that in any physically horrible sport, whether it is boxing ultra running or whatever, the only person who will disrespect you is somebody who has never done it and couldn’t be paid enough to do it!