Bunce, Total Sell Out !!

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  1. Axl_Nose

    Axl_Nose Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Firstly may i say that im a big fan of Setanta's boxing coverage because no other channel really shows boxing, although they miss more good fights than they show. I for example wouldnt have spent all that money on Calzaghe and Haye based on nationalism alone, real boxing fans dont care were a fighter is from, its his skills they appreciate ..

    Calzaghe - zero competition, zero personality, zero charisma ....
    Haye - Beats Monte Barrett and thinks he can call all the shots in the heavyweight division, totally ridiculous ..

    From my experience watching Setanta, they're boxing coverage is a total manipulation of the public, they cater for the casual 'football supporter' fan and not the true boxing fan .. Yeah they have cards from Germany but lets face it, German based cards are totally irrelevant ..
    Were was Diaz v Katsidis or Marquez v Casamayor ? .. Monte Barrett/Haye and Calzaghe v a washed up Jones are billed as big fights when in reality they didnt sell a dime in the states ..

    Steve Bunce's boxing hour is a total waste of time, it gives you a bit of news but the rest of it is Bunce kissing everyone's arse. Bunce never asks a question that means anything, if a fighter loses a fight he just nods and agrees when they come up with they're excuses .... Hes had Clinton Woods and Alex Arthur on in recent weeks and he never once asked the ultimate question,
    'Do you Alex/Clinton truly believe that you have what it takes to succeed at world level ?'
    Bunce isnt capable of asking questions like this, he just rubs they're ego's and encourages they're fantasies .. I heard Woods say that 'the Tarver fight was a bad day at the office' and Arthur came on and said 'now im at lightweight im gonna be a champion' .. This is were Bunce should have stepped in and said, 'Ive been watching boxing for 30 years and you 2 guys are living in a dream world, you've both got domestic level ability, your going nowere and your trying to fool the British public'. Thats what i expect from a so called boxing expert like Bunce but like everyone else he sells out because he wants to be pals with everyone and he wants his show to be on TV every week ..
    Steve Bunce knows boxing like Barry Mcguigan knows boxing but i lose respect for these guys when they talk **** that they dont believe themselves. Mcguigan was the worst when he crossed over from SKY to ITV to cover Khan. Warren told him 'we need to build this guy up even though he's fighting stiffs', so Mcguigan starts comparing him to Sugar Ray Leonard. It was an embarrassment knowing that Mcguigan always came up with clear and concise analysis on SKY, but because he was now firmly in the pocket of Frank Warren he starts comparing a novice like Khan to Sugar Ray Leonard, it was a total joke ..
    Bunce does the same, when Barrett fought Haye he was talking like this could be a real classic. Real boxing fans like Bunce know exactly what Barrett was there for, but he still tried to fool the public for his Setanta bosses. Barrett had zero chance of winning that fight and anybody who had seen Monte fight before knew it ..

    Steve Bunce knows what hes talking about, for example ..

    Bunce doesnt think that Calzaghe is one of the greatest fighters ever ..
    Bunce never thought that Barrett would give Haye a good fight ..
    Bunce thinks that Woods and Arthur are never going to be a World Champion ..
    Bunce, even though he said it was a fantasy fight, never thinks Steve Collins could beat Carlos Monzon, just like he doesnt think Benn has a hope in hell of beating Hagler

    He wont say any of these things because he feels he has to bend over to the Setanta audience because he presumes they have no knowledge of anything ..

    I need my own TV show, i'd call it, 'Axl on Boxing -The Truth, No Bull****' !!
     
  2. Rebel-INS

    Rebel-INS Mighty Healthy Full Member

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    Setanta is a buisness, they need to make money and they're going to get far more customers in Britain with British fighters.
    Theres plenty of fights I'd like to see, but the majority of the public haven't heard of any fighters outside of Britain.
     
  3. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Spleen well and truly vented.
     
  4. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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    ah here man enough already beggers cant be choosers
     
  5. Bunce

    Bunce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Green eyed boy is up late!

    Adios.
     
  6. phonk

    phonk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why are you lowering youself to this Steve????


    Ignore and they shall go away!!!


    Their reason de etra is to get a reaction. Rise above it Bunster. Rise above it.
     
  7. BamBam

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    Yeah thats right, Setanta are in the business of making money. So showing fights that appeal to masses of people is in their interest. Sure they could show the fights the 'real boxing fans' want to see but if only the 'real boxing fans' tune in to watch it then whats the ****ing use of that to Setanta.

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    I know that would have made your day because it might be the opinion you hold but no journalist worth his salt would talk to any professional sportsman like that. Bunce seems to have a lot of respect within the game with fighters, trainers, promoters etc... He's a sensible lad and a level headed one (even though he goes off on one sometimes) but most of all you have to give respect to get it back.
    Why would Buncey talk **** like that to Woods or Arthur. It would be ****ing bang out of order. Even if he said something like that to a figher and I basically agreed with the sentiment of the statement I'd still be disgusted with him because you just don't ****ing do that. You'd soon be out of work and out of friends within the sport because I 100% guarantee you no one would want to talk to you if you did something like that as a journalist.

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    Again you need to get a grip son. When McGuigan or Bunce are working for a particular network they are paid (and paid handsomely in most cases) for what they do. So say for example McGuigan talking up Khan, thats all par for the course. ITV splash out £x million on Khan and then they are paying £x thousand to McGuigan a year. So whats Barry going to do? Go on and tell all ITV's viewers that the company who are paying him have just splashed out all this cash on Amir Khan and he's a great big heap of shite? Come on man get a ****ing clue. All this talk of 'fooling the public' is nonsense. It's people doing their jobs.

    This is the place boxing fans can come and talk thrash or talk bollocks or call people bums or ****s or wankers. I've had many a dig at people here over various things. You can't do that when you are paid by a particular network or TV station though. You might think the Boxer A is a twat and a complete no hoper and you hope he gets starched the next he fights but if he is on the payroll of the same company you work for then you ain't saying it on TV.

    I know people on here love boxing and are into the 'real boxing fans' fights and opinions about stuff. Thats great, this is the place for it. How anyone with half a brain doesn't realise that you can't talk about boxing exactly the same way we do here on a forum, or the way you do down the pub with your mates (i.e. oh hes **** he'll never win anything, he can't punch, his a chinny ****er, I hope he get's KTFO next time) when you are a journalist absolutely amazes me. I should know because it's how I did and sometimes still do earn a living.

    I know Bunce splits opinions and that. Some like his style and his mannerisms, others hate them. Some agree with his opinion, others think he knows nothing. Thats all fair game. You don't have to like the way a lad presents himself, you don't have to agree with him. But coming on here mouthing off saying he's a sell out is the greatest load of **** I have ever heard. We wouldn't have some of the boxing we do on TV if it wasn't for Bunce. I know a lad at Setanta and he says Bunce tries hard to get some fights paid for that the company would otherwise have let slide. Even look at tonight, don't think that Buncey didn't have anything to do with this fight being shown. Calling him a sell out for doing his job is total rubbish.

    And you can go ahead and call me a nuthugger or whatever, I don't give a **** son. It's not that I'm member #1 of the 'I love Buncey' fan club. It's that I'm tired of people talking **** about someone who does a lot to ensure we get a **** load more boxing on TV these days (for free - non PPV) that we ever did before just because they can't get their head around the fact that being a keyboard warrior and being an actual well respected and successful journalist are two very, very different things
     
  8. jj01709

    jj01709 The Truth Full Member

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    stopped reading after first paragraph, why did you feel the need to go on and on:-(
     
  9. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  10. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Lets be fair here. Bunces Hour, despite its occasional faults, is still the best boxing program out there by a mile.
     
  11. phonk

    phonk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In fairness fella it's the only boxing program.
     
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    the reason my parents got setanta in the first place was because Joe began fighting on this channel.

    it is all about the green. sell, sell , sell!!!!
     
  14. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    That just re enforces my point.:p;)

    What other program has ever given fans that level of "insider" info and then have the presenter come on a forum and answer questions?

    No, it isn't perfect but the glass is def. half full rather than half empty.
     
  15. phonk

    phonk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No argument there.
     
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