So promoters should be the sole means of promoting fights and their fighters? I guess there's no need for Boxing News, Boxing Monthly, Bunceys show, boxing sites, newspaper reports etc. etc. then. And if you hadn't realised, at this very time Bunce's show is the only boxing show on TV or radio - the sport needs all the promotion it can get, otherwise it will continue to lose interest and continue to become more and more of a minority sport in this country. Bunce is promoting British fighters for the sake of British boxing.
Didn't all this start from Rob emailing in to Bunce to ask him to ask Booth if there was 50-50? Bunce told the answer on the Radio show and then Rob made numerous threads on the GF stating that 'Bunce confirmed to him it wasn't 50-50'?
I've just heard that the Dan piece that Palmer and UTAH Boy are banging on about was published on Thurs 8th July. That is a great, strong piece with facts and definite figures. I talked about the 50-50 on either Thur 17th or 24th June. I'm waiting for Dan's original piece saying that Haye and Booth had rejected a 50-50 offer from the Klits. This, according to UTAH Boy, needs to be published sometime between May 23rd -June 2nd. After the Kosaros post at #156 there should be very little further dialogue...but, I reckon there will be...Bunce is a liar...he loves British boxers...he tells lies...he only loves British boxers...he was not telling the truth...he is biased and loves British boxing...(can you see the pattern?). Adios.
And that's my point, why is a journalist promoting fighters? Shouldn't a journalist's only job be reporting the facts. How are we supposed to take anything Bunce says seriously if we don't know which hat he is wearing, journalist or promoter?
In a lot of cases yes it is. didn't Haye and Booth use the Klitschko's name shamelessly for publicity, promising that Haye was going to fight them both? That was clearly a lie. I'm not saying Bunce was lying about the 50-50 deal, I believe that he reported that in good faith but my point is, a good journalist never has an agenda, as Bunce's job includes promoting British fighters he is not without bias. Understand?
SO basicaly i was right i said either you lied or were lied to and you sounds like boothe lied to you. will you call out boothe on it No chance in hell :deal Calling someone a jack morman you have never met or heard of shows your ignorance on the matter.. Salt lake is not predominatly morman nor am i or was ever a memeber of said church... you really seem to amaze me you should look it up before assuming. i guess everybody in the U.K is protestant right... because that fits your logic since you know paint everybody with a wide brush. we have cards come through here from time to time and we get jim rome who has boxing on quite often and if i had to listen to someone on the radio to get my " boxing facts" i am grateful we do not have more local coverge. I'd rather be informed of the truth instead of just hyping home town fighter at the expense of honesty. remind me again since you reported wladamir was knocked down several times in his last few fights. ... when was the last time he was actually knocked down? and as far as what haye should do 50/50 is more then fair and he should be a man would be a man and actually back up his talk. its been what close to 3 years since the escelator incident isnt it about time he manned up and put his money where his mouth is. And by the way i wil pull up the article for ya ill have to look for the archives for it on espn. but it was there and posted on here in the forums off of it. and no it wasnt july 8th or what not finkel actually told rafael and he reported it back in may. http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blog/_/name/rafael_dan/month/june-2010 here is one form june 19th more to follow.
I understand what you're trying to get at, but Bunce promotes Brit fighters with facts (or info that is provided to him by viable sources) and doesn't use lies to do it. Some people may feel his opinion is biased, but that's his opinion not something that is the truth or a lie. And when 90% of the fights he is 'promoting' features just British fighters, it's hard to see how there is any problem of him promoting them predominantly. I hope we can agree on this, because I really don't want to continue posting on this terrible thread.
http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/notebook/_/id/5248629/miguel-cotto-confident-emanuel-steward-helm June 4th Sorry bunce.... rafael had it on the 4th already so the offer was there long before you reported no offer. June 4, 2010, 3:49 PM ET It looks more and more likely that heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko will next face mandatory challenger Alexander Povetkin instead of David Haye in a unification bout, Klitschko manager Bernd Boente told ESPN.com. Klitschko, as well as fellow titleholder and brother Vitali Klitschko, wants to fight Haye, who has trash-talked both of them for ages. Boente said they offered Haye a 50-50 deal to fight Wladimir in the fall without asking for options on any future Haye bouts. That is a major improvement over past offers, which included less than 50-50 and multiple options. Boente said the latest offer proves how much Klitschko wants to get Haye into the ring. "But we do not hear anything back from Haye or [manager] Adam Booth. All of a sudden Haye is very quiet now after doing all of that talking about fighting," Boente said. He said if they can't close a deal with Haye, Klitschko will face Povetkin whether they can negotiate terms or go to a purse bid. So are you going to call out boothe for lying to you or most likely going to let it pass..
Yeah sure we can agree, I can see both sides. Anyway I think this thread should be directed at RobPalmer, not Bunce
Kriszhao I find it hilarious that you've taken the moral high ground in this thread, considering you've got a track record for lying flagrantly. Remember all your bull**** 'Haye ducked Adamek' at cruiserweight claims?
Really no i said he did not clean out the Cruisers as claimed, He did not fight Cunningham or adameck... And how was that a lie exactly he never did clean out the cruisers. as claimed. he was never undisputed champ at cruiser. like claimed as well.
You did indeed claim that he didn't clean out the cw division. However you also explicitly stated that he ducked Adamek. Don't try to backtrack. You're not the only one who can go dredge up quotes from the archives.
Go ahead :thumbsup even if i did say duck it was probably a responce to someone else sayiing something else. mater of fact i think i remember the convo.. go ahead :deal
He won two of the three main titles in the backyard of a formidable opponent, then defeated his biggest domestic rival at the o2 in defence of his titles. I'd hardly say not fighting Cunningham - who has always been an inactive King fighter - or Adamek who hadn't established himself at cruiser can be held against him. Just drop the agenda, for **** sake. My 2p worth - Haye wants to fight Vitali next.