Buncey's "Trigger happy bell man" excuse....

^^^ I actually agree with Lirva for once, I believe it to be corruption, FWank is fighting for his financial life, Cleverly v Enzo would be a big fight in Wales and would of made money, Mcphilbin was brought in as cannon fodder for Enzo and to make him look good.
Mcphilbin was about to upset the apple cart and ruin them plans.
If the Cleverly v Enzo fight is still made, then that's all the proof I need. It should be dead in the water, Enzos shot and his punch resistance is completely gone, any ****er with eyes can see that.

 

I'm glad some of you people don't work in the legal system.

 

This. WHEN Cleverly - Enzo is made in the Summer it will be all the confirmation that I need. Not that we all didn't already know that FWank is and always was as bent as a 9 bob note.

 

Also, if Bunce's explanation is to be believes, what kind of incompetent **** employs a timekeeper taht clearly can't count, nor keep time. Surely if would be one of, if not THE ONLY requirement for the role?

 

I really want to believe that corruption doesn't play a major role in boxing these days but it seems like every week (sometimes twice in a week) something questionable happens. It's getting harder and harder to ignore but it seems like all the powers that be are in on it and there is nothing that can be done to stop it. When the sanctioning bodies are as bad as the promoters then there is no hope.

There needs to be a singular independent body monitoring things with no monetary interest but that in itself does not seem possible. It is a shady sport run by shady individuals yet we all still love it and seemingly to have to accept that these things will continue to happen.

 

This, what possible reason could a timekeeper have for ringing the bell so early, how could the mistake have arisen (which didnt emerge in the other 11 rounds)?

A lot of money to be made on Enzo v Cleverly
These sort of incidents (bad decisions, stoppages) seem to only ever favour the home fighter/cash cow. Convenient that.

 

Definite corruption. When has a bell man ever decided when a fight is over by TKO? They definitely don't do it so soon after the KO. It's usually after the ref has signaled the fight is over. He was clearly ringing because he thought the round was over, not the fight.

The ref would have stopped the fight had the bell not rang. There was no way Enzo could have carried on in the state he was, even after the 10 second count. He was totally ****ed.

 

Maybe you couldn't prove in the court of law that corruption was involved but anyone who doesn't believe there was shenanigans that night is burying their head in the sand.

 

Or just requires a standard of evidence above assumptions...

 

Kevin Mitchell (journo) tweeted eariler that the BBBC are to investigate the fight.

 

Or the use of common sense.:nut

 

The timekeeper could have been drunk, elderly and confused, been arguing with someone and neglecting his job, any one of dozens of things could have been going on that explain it. Obviously corruption is one possibility, but it is one of many and all I am saying is that we should not assume ahead of any investigation. I have seen some crazy stuff happen in life, and have seen some appalling levels of incompetence, so to assume that this is corruption is premature to say the least.

I think that it is more important to have this investigated, ruled a NC and return the title to McPhilbin - as I said in a previous post in this thread, regardless of the reason for the appalling timekeeping, that would correct the injustice currently being done to McPhilbin. I doubt that we will get to a concrete conclusion on whether this was corruption or incompetence, but we can address the principal wrong that resulted from it - namely the 'l' on McPhilbin's record and the return of his title.

 

enzo was dazzed and he turned his back and walked to his corner

THEN

the bell was rang

LOL

 

Well I don't see how Enzo could have known that they were about to ring the bell to end the round at that moment even if they had cooked up a plan beforehand - he was too dazed to know much of what was going on.

I agree that the early end to the round saved Enzo from getting stopped in the first round - which is why I think that McPhilbin should get his belt back - I just don't think we should assume that a conspiracy theory exists. As an earlier poster said, shortening the break between rounds one and two worked against Enzo, so that smacks more of incompetence than premeditation.

Call it a NC, return the belt, ensure that that timekeeper never works a pro fight again, and make clear to the event organizers that once can be taken as incompetence, but if it happens again there will be a much stricter investigation with consequences. That fixes all the issues and avoids us living in a society where we are happy to convict without evidence, which I for one think would be a bad thing.

 

Common sense is no better than received wisdom. Prove there was corruption.