Burns/Laryea, Cotto/Mayorga, Lee/McEwan & Martinez/Dzinziruk RbR!

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by ishy, Mar 12, 2011.


  1. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

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    TFFP, like myself, saw through Martinez, Hairy.

    Just hadn't seen anything from Burns before that suggested he was the man to do it.

    And yes, Uchiyama will most likely beat Burns, Ricky is a nice lad and works hard but not World class, even in this barren division. Uchiyama just looks the better fighter, if that makes sense?
     
  2. royalt0208

    royalt0208 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There isn't a report on the BBC site yet, says it all really. A World Title Fight involving a British Champion and over an hour afterwards it hasn't been reported by the biggest broadcaster in the world.
     
  3. almsn

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    I think Burns looks impressive .Tbh 80 percent of punches tonight were eye catchers from Burns Leyera ( pish ) .I like Burns's condition as well he's in top shape looks like a top pro ( Ricky Hatton torso )
     
  4. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    That part is the key here.
     
  5. Flea Man

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    Seems that me and The Eskimo were both bigging each other up for seeing through Roman at the same time :rofl

    Hardly makes up for all my wrong calls in the past. But at least Burns showed a chin approaching my level that night, Martinez could rock him but not put him away (although thats because he's a sloppy **** as well)
     
  6. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think that because certain attributes are potentially in favour of another fighter and vice versa, it means that they're equal. Burns might throw better combinations and have a better defence, but Uchiyama can throw punches in bunches and protect himself as well. The same goes for me saying Uchiyama is a better body puncher, has a better jab etc. Burns can, obviously, do all those things well.

    It might be down to how you gauge just how much a difference there is between them for each attribute. For example, say you have 6 attributes you are ranking and each fighter is better in 3 of them.

    Fighter A - Power
    Fighter A - Hooks
    Fighter A - Jab
    Fighter B - Speed
    Fighter B - Uppercuts
    Fighter B - Heart

    Just because the attributes are split, it doesn't mean they're on even terms. Fighter A could be so much better with a jab than Fighter B, whilst he is just behind Fighter B in terms of speed.

    IMO, I feel Uchiyama is the better fighter although Burns has some things in his favour. I hope that I've got my point across! :good
     
  7. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I don't think I've ever seen Uchi to know how Burns would do. I'll have to swat up on this kid.
     
  8. Flea Man

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    I'd seen Burns fight prior live, labouring to a points win over a good journeyman is Youseff Al Hamidi (he's made a fair few prospects work hard before) but that didn't suggest he could beat someone of 'fringe contender' class like Martinez.

    Martinez himself had only really beaten Cool. Who had only really beaten Arthur. Who had really only beaten Gogaladze.

    Awful lineage as of late, the 'WBO Super Featherweight World Championship', pathetic.
     
  9. HairyHighlander

    HairyHighlander BASS !! HOWLOWCANUGO ?? Full Member

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    :lol:

    Think about that for a second !!!


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    You didnt answer the question :lol:
     
  10. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    I think a career in politics could be awaiting TFFP.....
     
  11. HairyHighlander

    HairyHighlander BASS !! HOWLOWCANUGO ?? Full Member

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    Appreciate the honest opinion :good
     
  12. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I really can't be arsed to find out exactly who was saying it. It hardly matters...who. Are you going to be impressed because I write a name or two? :lol: You can find out just as easily as I can, if you really want to.

    Yes, nearly everyone was bumming Martinez religiously. Yes, he was a relatively big favourite, and rightly so because Burns was pretty much a nobody at that level. But it was hardly the biggest upset in history, he was like 2/9 on, and you should probably just accept that beating Nicky Cook does not make a guy amazing at all. It speaks for itself that he was highly overrated, he lost to Ricky Burns! and I for one don't care for all the excuses surrounding it either, he got beat by the better man. A better man that is nothing but solid.
     
  13. Flea Man

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    No worries :good

    I really like Burns though. He works hard, is humble, and will give it all he has it seems. Good luck to him :good
     
  14. Lazarus

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  15. HairyHighlander

    HairyHighlander BASS !! HOWLOWCANUGO ?? Full Member

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    As said, you could of just mentioned the highlighted.


    Appreciate the A-B breakdown but wtf ???!!!


    Cheers :lol: