Burns last night

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  1. theboy_racer

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    He's a bitter little ****
     
  2. McGuinty

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    Bitter how? Burns didn't beat me. But Burns was exposed and is massively over rated by Brit's especially Scot's. That was the first quality fighter Burns fought and got a boxing lesson.

    Dont know why you think Im bitter.. just cause your boy got exposed. He's not a quality fighter. Not a great fighter either. He was wrapped in bubble wrap with hand picked opponents.

    And 46-0 doesn't know the first thing about boxing or can he hold up an argument/discussion so I wouldn't count on him as back up to your deluded opinion on Burns.
     
  3. PityTheFool

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    I admit that he was **** poor last night,just like Vasquez was the concensus #1 then had a bad night v Quintera then everyone acted like they were always saying he was ****.
    But I have to ask,the majority of people were saying Gonzalez was a bum/nobody/tomato can before the fight without realising he was a mandatory defence that was ordered by the WBO.
    Why are you saying it was the first quality guy he fought?
    Martinez was the #1 SFW when Burns won,and the vast majority picked Katsidis to beat him,so he only became shot because Ricky won.

    Ricky got out of jail last night,but he's not the first to do it and he won't be the last.He always seems to regress when he's heavily favoured to win.And I have the posts from before the Katsidis fight to prove this isn't a new claim I'm making.
     
  4. Southpaw1

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    No I'm basing this on the fact that his opposition before burns were all puerto rican bums... Anyone could watch him punch last night and see that there wasn't much behind them for christ sake. Just because there is a thud does not indicate power. Listen when mayweather sweeps his right hand, youll hear a very similar thud, but guess what, not much there.

    So yea I'll base his power off what I can see in a fight, not what his pumped up record and a man who was getting his ass kicked and trying to save what face he has left say.
     
  5. McGuinty

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    I dont know if you have posts from me before the Katsidis fight or the Gonzalez fight but are you sayin that Katsidis wasn't shot? He had one more fight then retired. Martinez was a good win but who has he fought since then? Nobody to say he was a world class fighter. I didn't know anything about Gonzalez other than that he was the mandatory. I didn't know what to expect but watching the fight it was easy to see his skill and ability and power. And he outclassed Burns. In that fight we saw what Burns was like against a live opponent and not the likes of Evensen, Laryea, Cook, a past it Katsidis, Moses or Kevin Mitchell.
     
  6. Kevin Jesus

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    Paulus Moses and Nicky Cook were also good wins. Actually I would say Moses was a better win than Mitchel and Katsidis.
     
  7. PityTheFool

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    Well I'd like to think he could do a lot better than that if he was up against an established name.
    And I was genuinely asking why you thought he was a quality opponent.Wasn't trying to catch you out or pull you up on it.
    You'll get no argument from me that he was poor last night,but I will argue that he can do better.
    It's convenient to say Katsidis was shot,but in two of the last three fights before Ricky,he went 12 rounds with Guerrero and gave my favourite fighter the fright of his life before that.So in terms of levels,you can try all you want but that was a superb win for a guy coming from the level Ricky had fought at.No one said he was shot before the fight.
    And again,you'll not catch me saying Ricky will beat Broner,so the talk of hyping him up comes mostly from the haters,as most of the fans are fairly grounded.
    And I meant that I had been posting about people picking Katsidis,not you.
    No one's pretending that last night wasn't a **** performance,just like most of us argue that Ricky's at world level,not P4P,but your hatred for the guy is void of reason,and if he'd have come back and stopped that guy in the championship rounds,you'd be saying he was a bum.
    Try and be objective.As you've seen from this post I'm perfectly capable of being civil and honest if you're prepared to be measured in your debating.
     
  8. Jay23

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    As I said before you are basing this theory of yours on no factual information whatsoever and have openly admitted its the first time you've seen him fight...

    Why should anyone believe this crap.. Because you said so?

    Try finding some facts to back up your nonsense and your statements might then have some credibility..

    Until then stop wasting everyone's time.
     
  9. theboy_racer

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    You hate British fighters, be it Welsh, English or Scottish, your a bitter wee man.

    Burns did not get exposed and he is a quality fighter, Gonzalez was just much better technically and an awkward style for Burns, but physically and mentallly he couldn't match Burns and lost due to this

    You don;t seem to know much about Boxing, so pot kettle black on that
     
  10. Southpaw1

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    Fact #1: This was his biggest step up in competition (meaning his 17 kos could have, and most likely have, come over highly outmatched opposition)

    Fact#2: A shot that makes a loud noise does not always indicate power

    Now get over it, Burns is not all that he was cracked up to be and will get exposed again. Hell this fight was suppose to be a walk in the park and look what happened, it is only a matter of time.
     
  11. theboy_racer

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    Power is power, you can't just dismiss it because we don't know who his opponents are, they might not be known but for all we know they have good chins, he proved he is a very good fighter and backed up his record on Saturday, we have more evidence to suggest he has power than otherwise as you suggest

    Burns didn't get exposed either, this is typical ESB bull****, could be more that Gonzalez showed he is a class above than Burns showed he wasn't a quality fighter and as said, when it came to other attributes outwith technical skills, Burns actually outclassed him

    Let;s see how other so called good and non exposed fighters deal with Gonzalez in the future, that will be interesting and let;s see how these greats Abril, Vasquez or even Broner handle Burns, i bet it wont be with ease.
     
  12. Nicky Cook's back went in the first round. Hardly a good win.
     
  13. Southpaw1

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    Like you mentioned he has an amazing skill set, anyone can see that. So with those abilities, how hard is it to conceive that with average power he could compile 17 kos?

    It is obvious he wants nothing to do with broner so that fight is out of the question. Vasquez seems to be afraid of burns, although that may change after his last performance. Again time will expose burns assuming he takes on challenges.
     
  14. theboy_racer

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    or expose the shite talked on here about him
     
  15. EuroBot

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    Nicky Cook had a back spasm in the first round and quit. :patsch