Burns - Martinez Round One

It's a good debate.

But for me you have to look at how much damage a punch does.

And unfortunately that does mean if you have a glass chin a puch is gonna do more damage.

Some people are just better than others, and yeas a chin can be part of that.

There are plently sprinters out there that have much better technique than Usain Bolt. But he has the better god given tools (i.e. body= chin) that allow him to be faster and win everything.

We shouldn't score him less points because he has longer (quite frankly horse-like) legs.

 

I thought 10-9 Martinez. A knockdown isn't an automatic extra point so no way was in 10-8, but Martinez wasn't so badly beaten in that round that a knockdown just made it level. 10-9 is fair I think.

 

Technically, knocking your opponent down wins you the round. The way they work it out is this:

without the KD, it would be 10-9 to Burns
The KD makes it an even round BUT Burns has a point deducted for being knocked down
So 10-9 to Martinez

You are right, a KD doesn't automatically give you a 10-8 round - you need to win the rest of it or fight on broadly even terms.

 

Im happy with 10-8 for the boxer who lands a kd, even if hes took a hiding the whole round.

Im sure Jim watt scored a round 10-9 recently cos he said apart from the KD, the guy had lost the round, so 10-9. Cant remember the fight thoughatsch

 

You don't get deducted points for a knockdown in the same way as you do for fouls, it just almost always results in a lost round.

He doesn't make an allowance for a round where one guy is massively dominated but gets a lucky knockdown, which to my mind should be scored level, but then again I can't remember ever seeing such a round.

 

im happy with it being 10-8, a fighter could cover up and bide his time, whilst the other one(throwing many punches) may expose himself to be KD'd. it may be a clever gameplan.
whats better: 20 calzaghe shots or one solid ping on the chin to put the opponent down?

on a side note:
did anyone else notice how burns copied Mad Matt Hattons gameplan from his last fight...?
got put down in the first then rallied to dominate the fight...?

 

I do not think a KD should be equal to winning a round so I scored it level. If I had it my way I would have scored it 10-9 1/2 to Burns.

 

I generally score it 10-8 regardless.

The only fight I recently scored where I changed-up was the Chacon-Boza Edwards second fight, where I only gave Chacon a 10-9 round in the early going, even though he'd scored a kd, because Boza Edwards had beat the complete crap out of him for the rest of that round. Without the kd I would have been tempted to give Boza a 10-8 round (without a kd), so there's still a massive swing towards Chacon there.

 

What's better: 20 Calzaghe shots or one flash knockdown?

 

man, thats spooky

Of all the fights I watched in my lifetime, when Burns went down early, what fight popped into my big scottish head? No not nigel Benn v McLellan, but Matty bloody Hattons last fight!!!

Honestly, said it to my mate today that I was thinking about Matt Hatt, & thinking, if he can do it, then so can you when the chips were down!

Matty Hatton, you da man:deal

 

good stuff Dunky :happy

you'll have to get aboard the Mad Matt Hatton X-Press next time it revs its mighty engine and gets bumped :good

 

I wasnt calling burns shots calzaghe-esque, but I dont know if it was really a flash knockdown, he looked hurt to me

 

the whole idea of the game is to knock the guy down. thats what you plan to do in the round. whatever happens it will always go to the guy who scored the knockdown.....thats my feelings anyways.

 

I'd almost always score the round 10-8 to the fighter scoring the knockdown. The only exception would be if the fighter who scored the knockdown got absolutely battered and BADLY hurt in the rest of the round.

 

Thats how I look at it too. It wasn't as though Martinez was in big trouble in that round.