Burns v Moir

Watched some of it before and thought the same thing.

 

Haven't watched it in a while but will give it a watch in a bit but have ask aswell - does anyone else get surprised every time they go back and watch Tommy Burns on film?? I think I am a bit unfairly dismissive of him when he comes up in discussions to be honest - because every time I actually watch one of his fights I'm always thinking, you know what Tommy Burns is actually pretty good!? :huh really good boxer a good hitter with that right hand aswell - am I getting overly impressed with him? Starting to think he might be close to a level with the likes of the Max Schmeling's of the world?? What do others think?

 

I think he is underrated. Read my book, In the Ring With Tommy Burns. The guy had skills, could move, fight inside and out, and had power and a solid chin. History has been hard on him because he lost to Jack Johnson.

 

I'd never really heard anyone say Burns was a poor fighter or an awful champion until on this forum.
There was always a question mark on his legitimacy because Jeffries was still recently retired and unbeaten as champion, but he was definitely a very good fighter.

Yes, Moir gives a solid effort on film.

 

Compare burns common opponents with ketchells and ketchells blows him out of the water.

Stanley Ketchell was a better fighter than Tommy Burns and the bigger puncher

 

Max Schmeling? Get out of here. Burns never in a million year would have competed with Joe Louis, let alone beat him

 

It's not that he was an awful fighter. He was a good fighter. I just think his title reign opposition was below average. A lot of title defenses but not against quality. I do give him a lot of credit for defending against the best in Jack Johnson

Tommy had a lot of toughness

 

He looks good on film apart from against Johnson and O'Brien.