business side of boxing is very calculated

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by The Shockmaster, Aug 4, 2016.


  1. BCS8

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    Sooooo ... in Schlong's world, if GGG fought Eubank FIRST, he would never have been able to fight Brook SECOND ... because ... because uuuuh, aaah ... ummmm ... there's a mysterious invisible force preventing it? :patsch

    Get a grip.

    Not on your much-abused shaft.

    On reality. :deal
     
  2. Nuro

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    Actually in his deluded world he is kind of right about that as if Brook was second it would look like they went for it unless they set up fake neotiations again with arum and degale maybe?
     
  3. PaddyGarcia

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    Hmm, I do hear you. This move has absolutely crushed Jr's credibility though. You only have to look at the replies to his tweets he put up, plus the reason given was that Sr wanted to run the promotion which I can 100 percent believe. They've said no to a Jacobs fight and Saunders re-match too so it isn't like this wouldn't be out of character for them.

    I'm not going to call you a crazy conspiracy theorist though; what you've said has logic to it and maybe I'm being naive but I'm willing to but the official lines given in this instance
     
  4. lufcrazy

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    I don't care about the business side. I obviously accept it goes in behind the scenes but I won't use it as an excuse to duck.

    It's clear that me that CES is crazy and thought CEJ was the a-side and could make demands. He called Hearns bluff and it backfired and nw he's been left in the cold.

    I expect the fight to happen next whilst Canelo faces BJS. Winners face for all the marbles.
     
  5. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    ya im not saying im right...just saying...it is very plausible....and I respect your opinion paddy...thanks for the reasonable reply and your input

    like ive said....gg beats up a british welterweight...eubank talks trash about hows hes ggs size and a real mw and man.....and they make this soon......

    as far as credibility? well youd think canelo lost his right? but I bet cowboy stadium is pretty packed and his ppv does ok
     
  6. The Shockmaster

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    how is CEJ left "in the cold" if hearn is gonna pay him another 2 mil for a stay busy fight while he waits for GG? you just said you think CEJ/GGG will happen next......but you also say "CEJ is left in the cold"....hes not ....hes gonna milk another payday against a domestic level mw and then probably/possibly still get GG
     
  7. Nuro

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    Eubank is contracted for 1 more fight with matchroom. Also where dd you hear he is gonan give him 2m? Eubank probably hasnt earned that much in his career has he?
     
  8. lufcrazy

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    Brook, Golovkin and Vargas are all going to get a career high payday next time out whilst CEJ defends his British belt for peanuts.

    Then he'll have to come crawling to Golovkin making all sort of concessions in the hope the fight can still be made.

    I said out in the cold because whilst I think G will face CEJ and give him that payday, we know the other 3 are all about to make mega bucks.

    CEJ might not get the G fight, he might have to go through the Euro belt and then mandatory route.
     
  9. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    ok...maybe not 2 mil...dunno if any info can be found on eubanks purses...but I bet hes getting at least a mil or prob a little more for a fight with tom doran

    hearn now has the connection with k2....if eubank wants that big fight with ggg hell reup with hearn....he really doesn't have a choice if he wants to make money

    I posted a link to an article yesterday where degale was saying the reason hes over fighting in America is money...haymon has the connections that can make him money...degale got 2 mil for bute fight.....he was saying if it wasn't for haymon then hed be fighting domestic level opposition for relative peanuts..

    CEJ wants to make to make a good payday hes gonna need hearn and gg
     
  10. The Shockmaster

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    he wont have to make any real concessions....hell get the same type of deal that brook is getting without having to say a word or make a fuss....if CEJ don't want that then he doesn't want the fight
     
  11. lufcrazy

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    He didn't want it last time, what makes you think he'll see sense this time?
     
  12. The Shockmaster

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    ur thinking in just terms of "he didn't take the fight now it must mean he doesn't want it"...as if this is the only time it can/could be made.....that fight still has a shelf life....it could make more sense next year....could be even better with gg beating up a british welterweight

    worst case scenario...the same fight and same deal is there for him next year....hes 26...not 36
     
  13. lufcrazy

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    I suppose it's like those who pester G to move up to SMW, he might do it eventually, just not now.

    In an ideal world G will face CEJ, Jacobs, Saunders/Canelo and then move up. It's the only way he can be remembered as a great MW imo
     
  14. Nuro

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    Sounds like the Langford fight goes to purse bids on August 10th
     
  15. The Shockmaster

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    here is what hearn said to sky sports

    "there is a huge future for chris eubank jr. He can fight the winner later on in the year. he has a big future ahead of him. He misses out this time but I am sure he will get his shot in due course"

    I couldn't cut and paste that from the scene so I actually had to type that....direct, verbatim, quote from hearn....and it says a lot ...to me anyway.....

    I think if you really look at things...you can clearly see brook/ggg was planned