Business-wise. How can Floyd recover on this PR disaster?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Cocteau, Jul 17, 2010.


  1. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    yeah i know, like i said i jus want to see he fight

    but that is a very good strategy, both very smart business men

    floyd learnt alot with his time at top rank but im sure he has learnt alot doing things his own way too
     
  2. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All he has to do is show the BS terms of the contract. If it isn't:

    +50%
    USADA drug testing

    As much as we hate it, we know why the fight was killed. Pac and Arum are insane.
     
  3. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    What bad move are you talking about! Bob Arum just came out and told the world how he has been lying to us all! Lats month he was making statements that the negotiations between Top Rank and Golden Boy are going well and now he comes out saying that he never talked to Golden Boy or any of Floyd's people directly! He spoke to Ross Greenburg a few times and he assumed things are going well with the negotiations! Did you really expect Floyd to come to Arum like a little ***** on his deadline and then Arum says that the fight can still happen but they need a answer in the next 10 days or so! How is that a bad move on Floyds part?
     
  4. Interceptor

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    :yep
     
  5. Cocteau

    Cocteau Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Where have you been?

    I would ignore what you just said because you obviously don't know who Al Haymon (he's almost Floyd himself when doing business) is who didn't deny that he returned to ross saying he got a go ahead from Floyd to start drafting the contract stating the points agreed. Means, the purse split and drug testing protocol is fine. You also missed ODLH's statement a few weeks ago, confirming they are involve in the negotiation (thru Al and Ross).
     
  6. SoxNation

    SoxNation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This helps Floyd if it does anything. Bob Arum was proven to be a liar AGAIN. He said a deal was reached when he's not even speaking with Mayweather's team. Apparently, Arum is offering the same deal that he was already offering, which is a 14 cut-off. Floyd originally offered the 14 day cut-off window and Team Pacquiao declined. Just before the Mosley fight, Mayweather started saying he'll only accept full Olympic style testing. After the Mosley fight, Team Pacquiao agrees to the 14 days, but Mayweather sticks with full testing. Arum then gives a deadline to Floyd and says the fight is off if he doesn't accept. Mayweather doesn't budge and now Arum backs off of the deadline. All of this makes Arum look terrible and shows Mayweather is calling the shots. This fight will most likely end up being on Floyd's terms if he chooses. I still can't understand why some people believe Arum after all of these lies throughout the years.
     
  7. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is Arum's info you dummy.

    50/50 with a 14 day cutoff was never going to be accepted by Mayweather. Arum knew this.

    Anyway, they can both go **** themselves for not making it work.
     
  8. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    **** em all and pac for the first fiasco and floyd for not communicating in this fiasco.. The world wants this... Both of you will make 3 mega fights worth of money in one super mega fight. Nobody gives a **** about any other fight.
     
  9. markrigh

    markrigh proud of what i am Full Member

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    You can find all the excuses of the world but how come Floyd considered by himself the greatest boxer in history (even greater than ALI) would deny this fight... What hurt the most is Floyd completely disrespecting all the fans worldwide.

    Floyd should have stayed retired, THIS IS NOT HELPING BOXING.
     
  10. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not making excuses but they are all to blame. They are both denying this fight.

    Are you too dumb to understand what actually happened?

    There was no agreement. There was a contract for 50/50 with a 14 day cutoff sent to Mayweather when he made it clear from the get go that he would never accept it.

    You ****ing idiots "Mayweather doesn't want the fight unless he agrees to Manny's contract". Does Manny not want the fight for not agreeing to Mayweather's contract? If he is as much of a warrior and great human being like you guys all naively believe, he should just accept Mayweather's terms.

    Truth is, they are both egomaniacs, pieces of **** and are equally to blame for not reaching a fair compromise.
     
  11. The_President

    The_President Boxing Addict banned

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    EXACTLY!!

    Seems PAC does have something to hide, Phillopine PEDs! :yep

    I dont blame Mayweather one bit for not giving a cheater a chance to make money off of him. Cheaters should be banned, not given mega-fights.

    If Rat-man can't sign up for FULL testing, then the hell with the cheat. Let him fight lesser opponents for lesser $$$. Mayweather is going to get paid REGARDLESS and will always be seen as the greater (and CLEANEST) boxer of the two. :hey
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  12. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Floyd not signing could very well be an ego issue, as if he did this on purpose to make it clear that nobody gives him a set time limit or demands him to sign by such and such a date especially someone who is no longer his boss.... this could very well be why he hasnt signed... But the question is why hasnt anybody spoken? I think its pretty darn clear that Floyd doesnt want the pac fight and has been exposed regarding the fight all together... I think this could also be why they havent said much... this is not good at all for PBF.
     
  13. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    That and make him look like a coward. If he feels he can beat him then man up and prove it. Even if he gets his ass kicked at least he would've gotten in the ring to fight. Where was this talk of him saying he wants to whoop his "punk ass"?

    BTW I'm a Floyd fan and figured he wouldn't sign anyways. Not really surprised though.
     
  14. markrigh

    markrigh proud of what i am Full Member

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    People that thinks this way are very rare... and very biased.

    Why do you think Arum impose the countdown in the first place? To force a response from Mayweather. Because whatever the answer, Pacquaio is gonna fight in November (probably his last).

    I bet that in 10 years, Mayweather will be remembered as THE MIGHTY DUCK!
     
  15. les

    les boxerman Full Member

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    hell be fine