Buster Douglas interview on Mike tyson

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  1. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very interesting.
    He mentions how surprised he was at how much heart Tyson showed.



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    He left a lot of that fighting spirit in jail, going from a famous athlete to an inmate among the dreggs of society, getting humiliated/broken by the guards, and being told "you're nothing special in here" probably took away the things Cus D'amato tried to instill in him.
     
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  2. BCS8

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    Great clip.
     
  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Tyson showed heart in Holy I as well.
     
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  4. Skins

    Skins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mike certainly took his whooping like a man in that fight:headbash
     
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  5. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes but that one broke him imo, he tried to quit in round 7/8 witht the headbutt, but then continued to try to KO Holy but took a savage beating
     
  6. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it was more the rematch. I think that was the first time he was well prepared but in the ring with a guy that just had the better of him.
     
  7. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Yeah, those headbutts discouraged him. Tyson had never been cut before (sans the Holyfield 1 fight) and never as early as the 2nd round.
     
  8. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My guess is that felt he'd lose the fight, no excuses, and found a way out. Only a guess, but I've seen him say that in at least one interview. Of course, he has said before that it was head butts, so it's what you find most believable.
     
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  9. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    I actually believe it's both. Tyson was afraid Mills Lane wasn't paying attention, thus getting discouraged and saying "**** it".
     
  10. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holyfield brought the dog out in Tyson, once it arose it never hid it's face........
     
  11. steve1990

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    I think Mike had a false sense of confidence going into Holyfield 1. He had won all of his fights since his release from prison with ease. With the headbutts and losing the fight in Holyfield 2 he panicked and tried to get out the easiest way out possible. After that boxing was just a job for Mike.
     
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  12. Bokaj

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    I wonder what would have happened if he never gone to jail and received the same treatment from Holy in 91-92 instead.
     
  13. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If that had happened, Holyfield would rightfully be declared the better heavyweight prime vs prime. As it stands now, it is really just speculation. Not all great fighters have longevity. The difference between 1988 Tyson and 1997 Tyson is far more vast than the difference between 1991 Holyfield and 1997 Holyfield. In fact, some aspects of Holyfield's heavyweight game had actually improved by 1997. (Ring IQ, size, punching power were all better.) Absolutely every facet of Tyson's game (with the possible exception of power) had dramatically plummeted by the time these two excellent fighters finally met.
     
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  14. Bokaj

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    I don't agree with this and it certainly wasn't the view at the time.
     
  15. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are certainly entitled to your opinion. I was at that fight (as well as all of the post prison Tyson fights), and, Mike was having trouble from fighters like Buster Mathis Jr. This would have never happened to the Tyson from 1988/. With the exception of Bruno, his timing was awful. And he was clearly not mentally/physically ready for a full 12 rounds of battle. Hell, Mike was breathing heavy after only two rounds against Holyfield. There was nothing prime about Tyson at that point.
     
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