Buster Douglas vs Larry Holmes

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Who wins and How

  1. Holmes KO

    24.2%
  2. Holmes TKO

    27.3%
  3. Holmes UD

    30.3%
  4. Holmes SD

    12.1%
  5. Draw

    0 vote(s)
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  6. Douglas KO

    3.0%
  7. Douglas TKO

    0 vote(s)
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  8. Douglas UD

    3.0%
  9. Douglas SD

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  1. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Also Uppercut, footwork, combinations. He's significantly better than Williams.

    That being said I expect Holmes to win more often than not by a close decision
     
  2. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Douglas had one really good night in his career and a few pretty solid performances- The night he beat Tyson, Mike already lost the good people around him- Cus- Jacobs-Rooney when he fought Spinks he was strong mentally, physically and spiritually - once King took over he played his control games and his corner was inept.

    I seen Buster fight prior to that and he was talented and had power, if he was born with his father's appreciation of opportunity and hunger he may have won a few more of the big ones

    So on that one great night Buster could beat Holmes, he could stop Holmes on that night but on any other night Holmes beats him because Larry was always in condition and knew what it was to lose in the amateurs being KO'd badly 2X by Nick Wells and stopped by Duane Bobick. Ali kind of said Holmes went for the disqualification but it was his way of quitting. I think that bothered Holmes and he always came prepared always got up after getting dropped and no one can argue that his heart was faulty- Buster? did not always give his best
     
  3. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree. Buster had a great win. I always think about Buster's great win against Mike. I watched it recently. Mike did not really hit him cleanly until round 8, and Buster really waited and some could argue he didn't care if he was counted out at that point. I could be mistaken, but didn't he get up at the end of the count, and still some say it was a late count. Good thing that count was at the end of the round. Buster just fought Mike off and landed clean and Mike couldn't. If a guy can take away Mike's offense then Mike was ineffective-not many guys could take away his offense. Larry had more tools. Jab, right Backing up going forward. Everything. Buster was easy to discourage if he was hit, and Holmes not hitting someone like Buster would not happen. Buster had a great win against Mike but he was not a great fighter. Great skills in someway without a strong great boxing mind. Great win against Mike. Buster could be a quitter. And I don't knock that, but when it comes to great fights if I guy quits in a few fights you cannot depend on him to win. Tucker, Tyson (almost quit) and Holyfield. That was quit. He looked at his gloves the same way he did Tyson.
     
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  4. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Who was Douglas father?
     
  5. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    I believe he is Billy Douglas, fought at lightheavy.
     
  6. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    This man? But boxrec says he was a middle weight? I wonder how Douglas grew into a modern sized super heavy if his dad was a middle weight or light heavy?

    https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/16634
     
  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    He fought (and dropped) Saad Muhammad. He also fought Willie Monroe at 160. He fluctuated.
     
  8. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    Buster ate too much.
    That is his father.
     
  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    If his son beat Tyson, I wonder if Dad Douglas could have beaten Michael Spinks??? Hmmm......
     
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  10. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Billy "Dynamite" Douglas
     
  11. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Buster at his very best was only a generic version of Holmes. Holmes better at everything. Holmes late TKO
     
  12. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Larry Holmes, 1978 edition beats 1990 edition of James Buster Douglas. Douglas makes it a competitive match with his counter punching. Larry had that hard left jab and good lateral movement, that he employed in his title winning effort against Ken Norton, on June 9 1978, in Las Vegas, Nevada. Buster will have his moments, during this bout, catching Larry with his counter right hands. Larry is snapping out his left jab and moving. left to right. But in round 10, Holmes sets up Douglas with his left, then fires home a right hand that ends the bout with Douglas staring up at the ring overhead lights, hearing the full ten count. Holmes had more skill, and hits harder than Tony TNT Tucker, who kayoed Douglas prior to the Tyson fight in 1987.
     
  13. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is an excellent comment. Very similar. Poor mans Holmes.
     
  14. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Disagree with this evaluation.

    Douglas had a superior left hook to Holmes. And threw a real nice one off that jab. Or a lead left hook and he could throw while moving those feet.

    Larry got by on that jab and right hand. An occasional right uppercut but not frequent at all.

    Both guys just relied a ton on that jab. Nullify it and they are in a tough bout.
     
  15. JohnThomas1

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    This is it in a nutshell. It would be a hard slog for both. Holmes class, pedigree, heart and determination should be the difference.