Saw it too many times and Douglas was winning fairly easy vs a guy who was bigger than him. He would have had no trouble with a slow plodding midget like Rocky.
Please....Ruiz couldn't hold a candle to Douglas and neither could Rocky to Jones. As far as skill level is concerned.
Rocky couldn't hold a candle to jones in skill terms but he could demolish him brutaly in the first round.
Whatever Marciano's limitations he would never come into the ring in the condition that Tyson did against Douglas that night. It took two men to make that fight unfold like it did.
He was prepared enough to win. His fans ended up making excuses for an inelegant performence rather than a catastrophic KO loss.
Yeah, but if you take out Cockell and replace the Tokyo Douglas and IMO the outcome would have been different.:good
Marciano look pretty dang impressive in the LarSarza rematch. And Cockell was just not staying down lol. Had Cockell take the punch and takeing the ten count like any other man, ok, impressive. But NOOOO Cockell had to fight for honor and country,(The Brits were edgeing Cockell to win the title, Brition's last hope ete.) And relly that type of backing makes a guy stronger if they are view as the host of there country for a fight. It was not the edge to beat Marciano of couse, BUT Marciano gave Cockell one of the worse beatings in the ring. Did you guys see the 7th and 8 rounds of that fight?? Cockell was taking right hand after right hand and NOT going down.
For the record, Cockell Marciano beats Douglas Tyson. Unlike Tyson, Marciano wont forget his head movement and defenses from his style. Tyson was just walking in and taking the jab. Also Marciano would be in better shape. Billy Conn said it better, a C Level fighter INSHAPE beats a A level fighter out of shape.
Douglas wins by KO/TKO. Douglas of 1990,Tokyo too big, too determined, too skilled, too much for onesided Marciano.
I don´t understand why people here (many) hate Marciano so much, what did he wrong? Now he´s in a fantasy matchup against a journeyman, Buster Douglas. This fighter´s legacy is only discussed today because he won (where he was in decent shape, I agree) against a non motivated, non well- trained, from parties ****ed up Tyson. Marciano would KO him in the midrounds after a pretty good beating, @ this little Ali- nuthugger who play the smart-ass and tell us about "do your math...": Perhaps you should yourself fight a combat sport (or at least making some sparring sessions), than you would probably notice that weight and size isn´t everything...
Sound analysis. Consistency-wise you'd have to give Marciano the edge, but "Buster" on Tokyo form would be a genuine threat to many a HW. :good
While Douglas was very good the night he beat Tyson and I don't want to take anything away from the best performance of his life, Tyson was in pretty bad shape and was almost waiting to be taken by the next serious Heavyweight that didn't fear his aura of invincibilty. He had been on the slippery slide down for a while, the Bruno fight really sent alarm bells ringing for me. All credit to Douglas for taking advantage of this and showing the heart he did against Tyson. He would not be so fortunate against Marciano, who was always focussed and came to fight in exceptionally well trained condition. I see Marciano stopping a game Douglas by the 10th Round.
rocky would probably stop douglas late, but you can never rule out douglas winning. his jab just might cut up rocky enough for a stoppage.