Buster's "long count"?

He is surposed to try to count to 10 in 10 seaconds but at the end of the day a fighter is entitled to asume that 10 is when the referee says 10.

If Don Kings atempt to overturn the outcome of Tyson Douglas had been alowed then from then onwards a fighter would have had to carry a stopwatch to ensure that the count was acurate.

 

Lets not forget that Doulgas a pound going down slam his fist on the ground. He look well aware of what was going on around him, and had Eye to eye contact with the ref at the ref's count of 2(After hitting the ground).

If Douglas relly needed too, he could have beating a 5 count. or even a 3 count.

 

Thanks for bringing that point back up, for some reason or another it wasn't covered as extensive as it should have.

 

Tyson being the more proven fighter leads me to believe that Buster's performance was amplified by Tyson's dismal effort.

 

No.

I re-watched this fight a few weeks ago. This is one of boxing's myths that do not reflect the reality of the event (ala an Ali who was battered by Foreman but came back to KO him.) Buster fought an awesome fight that night in Tokyo - the best of his career and better than anyone else ever fought Tyson.

But Buster Douglas floating like a butterfly and stinging like a bee is a myth brought on by the rose-tinted view of nostalgia and reminiscence. Yes, for limited stretches of time, Douglas did get on his bicycle, moved with fluidity and worked off a great jab.

But the true story of that fight was a Buster Douglas who stood fearlessly toe-to-toe against Tyson, roughed him up, shoved him, wrestled him, hit him on the break and showed him no respect . That is what got Tyson.

At his peak in '88, there is no way any fighter in history (let alone Douglas) would have been able to get away with those tactics. At his best, not only would the KD in round 8 occured earlier, Tyson would have finished him off.

 

couldnt agree more

 

:huh i dont know where your going with this

doesnt matter if he was floating like a but.....yada yada....yea he went flat footed to throw his powerful jab...does that make him more beatable or what?

 

The count was long as evidenced by the time keepers hands you can se in the background but Meyran didn't do any thing wrong and Buster got up when he had to becauase he was in control of his senses unlike Tyson when he was knocked down. Out of curiosity has anyone seen a ref really stuff a count and what happened.

 

I wonder if Fleischer tried that with Dave Barry at Soldier Field. (Imagine the uproar if Nat caused Dempsey to regain his title! A slightly easier trick to pull with only a couple thousand in attendence than over 100,000.:think)

 

He's basically saying that the Tyson Douglas fought wasn't the same as, say, the one who fought Spinks, Berbick, etc. Tyson was on the downhill slope by the time he fought Douglas and much of skills had eroded. I think Buster would have made a great showing regardless but Tyson would have beat him had it occured in 87/88.