But but it isn't the amateurs...

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  1. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's excellent at safely closing distance and then safely escaping or angling off to continue an assault. He's most vulnerable in an exchange, but to hit him you have to know you're getting hit right back, probably a lot harder.
     
  2. kracka81

    kracka81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why does he have to be called a idiot.
     
  3. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Haven't you seen Lomachenko? He has an am record of nearly 400 fights with only 1 loss that he avenged, two time olympic and world champ in different weight divisions plus a Val barker winner. Even in the amateurs he was harder to beat than Rigo, in a game that favours outside counter punchers, while being an aggressive inside fighter for the most part. The reason why I'm more certain of Loma's success is his all round game, he has that coupled with elite athleticism and a higher percentage style than Rigo. He is every bit the defensive wizard Rigo is but he does it with his hands up and on the inside as well, and while he is punching. I've never seen a fighter as close to perfect as Lomachenko before. He's beaten everybody he has faced in a ring and I don't see why that would change in the pros when his style is more suited to the pros. The US fighter Ramirez, Mexican Valdez and Puerto Rican Verdejo are all getting hyped up early in their pro careers and they are Loma victims.

    Watch from about 9 minutes on:
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  4. Amir Khan is a good example also. Great technique and speed, just a shame about his weak ass chin.
     
  5. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    :huh Khan has terrible technique, in and out in straight lines, weight always on the front foot, bad posture. He was one of the ones who slipped through the cracks during his short amateur career due to his reach and speed advantages. He wouldn't have such a weak chin if he fixed up his posture and technique.
     
  6. There is no problem with fighting in and out when you have the speed. Your comment about his bad posture, that is your opinion, it does not mean it is Bad. Can you please explain what Technique you are talking about, because I am talking about scoring punches going forward and backwards.
    Go look at some Prince Naseem fights fought most of his career the same way. There are so many styles you can pick holes in them all and not every fight will be the same.
     
  7. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Posture isn't a matter of opinion, if you understand the human body or have a background in biomechanics you can tell a lot just by glancing at someone. Hamed had fantastic posture and balance which is a large reason why he was so powerful. He was unorthodox but he had excellent punching mechanics. Khan certainly does not, he has his weight on his front foot all the time. That means he can bang with his left when he needs to but it takes all his power away from his right and it means his chin is down instead of being supported by the rest of his body. Moving in and out is okay if you can do it with good balance and posture, you get some power on your shots and you can move in any direction. Khan is off balance and can only move in straight lines throwing arm punches. Khan has overachieved big time with his skill set, he's painful to watch.
     
  8. Eartons

    Eartons New Member Full Member

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    My personal experience is that have been quoted this one that amateur' and 'professional' are misnomers in the sport of boxing.So far as the newcomer boxing definitely learn some tools from the mature and professional trainers.
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  9. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    2009 amateur world champion, 2008 Olympian Jack Culcay lost to Argentinian strongman Guido Pitto today.

    I guess it isn't the amateurs.