But I thought Joe Joyce had an all time chin?

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  1. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I guess not. Certainly not if old man Chisora is sitting him down.

    I think the extension of this is that hypejob Zhang’s legendary power is also somewhat mythical given Joyce is the guy that every Zhang gobbler throws in your face as evidence of the Chinaman’s power.

    Joyce is a nobody. A stepping stone. A footnote really.

    And any win over him is not really much to crow about.
     
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  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    He wasn't really hurt when he was dropped. He was simply squared up and ate a shot so big it literally knocked all 20st of him off his feet, but he got up like he had slipped and went right back at trying to take Chisora out. Last night showed he still takes a good shot, but he should avoid the really big punchers like Wilder, Joshua and of course Zhang, he's simply too easy to hit and while his chin is good it's not THAT good.
     
  3. DoctorJones

    DoctorJones Member Full Member

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    Yes definitely
    Strange thing is Usyk called Chisora the hardest British puncher he faced. Maybe perception can vary a lot.
    Also Chisora punched are telegraphed which made them much easier to absorb than Zhang's. But it doesn't mean that you don't feel them
     
  4. TMLT87

    TMLT87 Active Member Full Member

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    He did have a great chin, but chins can be cracked and his most likely is after those Zhang fights.
     
  5. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    Bull ****

    Joyce still got great, great chin. KD was more like flash KD than really heart him. He attack very hard and was catch but never heart here.

    And Joe is not "nobody". He destroy dude who is number 4 today. He also destroy Dubois. He was on top because few very good wins.

    His fight yesterday was much closer than people and judges see this. If not KD he probably should got draw or even win. If fight was 12 rounds not 10 he 90% will KO Dereck who fight for his life 3 last rounds.

    Joe got his atributes and got his limits. He probably never should choose Zhang for opponent. They got bad view on what happend in Hrgovic vs Zhang fight.

    He is like Adam Kownacki. Yes he start lose but this not cancel what he done previous. And he done pretty much.
     
  6. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    You must take this boxer talk about hardest puncher with distance.
    We fans got much better perspective on punching force than them. Yes I know how it sounds but that's just truth.

    Usyk was badly heart in Joshua 2 fight after right hand. He was running thru whole ring and in break he spend whole pause with close eyes praying for strenght.
    Chisora never heart him really. And You trurly think Chisora punch harder?
    Because he punch him with full force on block when fights start?

    Other example. Artur Szpilka said that Mike Mollo punching power is better than Wilder. U really belive that?
    No. Just agresive boxers who threw full force punches can be hard and painfull but we all know how ends catch shots like this from Wilder.

    We as fan seeing this without adrenaline and others thing. We see effects.

    Chisora got good punch power but not close to Joshua. Do You think he can do with Ngannou same what AJ?
     
  7. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey Just taking a break, folks Full Member

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    Nah, Joyce's chin is still freak of nature type ****. Dubois is a huge puncher and even when he landed clean with massive haymakers Joyce barely blinked. Chisora was winging big shots at him all night and even this shot to bits version of Joyce ate his best shots pretty easily. Parker can whack, Takam can whack, and Ustinov can whack yet none of them made a dent in Joyce. Zhang really does just punch that hard.
     
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  8. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That hook from Zhang Joyce got up from would hospitalize most.
     
  9. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He had for sure. But you cannot take 100 clean punches every single fight and be ok.

    Someone cracked that chin and ended him
     
  10. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Only seen the highlights, but he ate plenty of punches from what I saw and never looked truly hurt. His defence is just too bad
     
  11. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He still has an ATG chin, no fighter ever took this many massive shots and remained standing.
    Zhang is a 10/10 power puncher and it still took some absolutely collosal punches to get Joe out of there
     
  12. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Where was Usyk ever badly hurt in the Joshua fights? He wasn't in any trouble at any point, even in rd9 of the 2nd fight where Joshua was constantly throwing and gassing himself out, he barely landed.
     
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  13. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    He was in deep trouble in second fight. Its not normal situation where You with close eyes dont listen to corner but just pray.

    For sure he was in deeper trouble than in any moment of Dereck Chisora fight.
     
  14. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    He was squared up when he was hit. He was knocked off balance. He's still got a GREAT chin.
     
  15. Potwash

    Potwash The Real Untouchables Full Member

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    If the fight was 12 rounds Joyce would of won, if my aunty had bollocks she would be my uncle.
    You clearly rate Joyce so this is a massive win on Chisora. Out of interest what's your opinion on Chisora, the winner of the fight.