Bute #1 super middleweight

Kessler beat Andrade more decisively then Bute did. Just watched the fight, Bute was getting caught against the ropes. Its just that ole punching bag finally gave in.

Bute doesnt get top spot for beating Kesslers leftovers. And it took him 16 ****ing rounds,

 

does the color of his color put him in your number 1 spot?

 

I have no problems lecturing lesser individuals as yourself that are opinionated more by bias than reason. So, Mr. Boxing in Montreal with the Jean-Pascal avatar, I do hope your obviously unbiased profile allows you to see some of Lucian Bute's glaring flaws? I explained this before in another thread but I guess I have to do it again for your benefit.

Despite his stoppage victory last night, he was still fighting with nervous energy and appeared as if he were tiring all ready. He allowed Andrade to connect with hard, plotting shots in the 4th round that he was mostly avoiding during the first three rounds (as he should from a slow, one gear fighter like Andrade).

Now, do you think this nervous energy of his will do him any favors in a gruelling, 12 round match? We saw what happened in the first fight with Andrade, he outboxed the limited plodder (again, as he should) but sapped himself in the 12th round. Now put him in the ring against a better talented fighter than Andrade that can apply as much pressure, like Kessler or Froch. Bute lacks the footwork, handspeed, and ring generalship of Andre Ward to bother Kessler like he did. Kessler would feed off of Lucian's nervous energy and slowly walk and break him down. Carl Froch, despite being a limited boxer himself, relies on aggression and workrate to break down better boxers than him...like he did against Taylor and Pascal. He's tougher than Andrade, and I suspect Bute will break down to his pressure.

You remember those shots Lucian Bute took from the limited, plodding Andrade in the 4th round? Lucian will outbox Abraham from the outset, but once Abraham starts connecting, it's lights out Bute Hell, Abraham wouldn't even need to land many punches to get Lucian's attention.

Dirrell has phenomenal reflexes, timing, and speed. He made Froch look silly much of thier fight and had him on ***** street. Lucian Bute struggles to even look good against plodding, straight forward fighters like Andrade (his best win, which isn't sayin much). Dirrell has the tools to counter Bute and make him miss all night.

From what I've seen, Ward will make easier work of Bute than he did Kessler. Ward is easily the most skilled super middleweight with the physical attributes to match. He's a thinker in the ring and can adjust on the fly. Bute makes constant mistakes that Ward will definitely capitalize on, keep him on the outside with the jab, rough him up on the inside with his superior infighting skills, and make Bute look foolish in the process.

There you have it, Montreal. . And let me just say before comparing Bute to the super six fighters, maybe he should take on the man in your avatar...a fight that will show just how far he's come along since that embarrassing KO defeat to Andrade.

 

Of Course

Farmys rankings at SMW

1. Lucian Bute (white)
2. Carl Froch (really white)
3. Arthur Abraham (close to white and beat a black guy)
4. Mikkel Kessler (white, and just lost badly to a black guy, so the black guy must of cheated.)
5. Donny Lalonde (Was cheated by SRL 20 years ago, oh and VERY white)



Keith

 

Let's start by thanking you for finally explaining yourself.

Then, let's say that you're more bias than me because you can't recognize any of Bute habilities, prefering to see Bute as only a flawed fighter who was lucky to win the second fight against Andrade. He got hit to have a chance to get to Andrade body. It's not like you can reach the liver from the outside range...

Now, let's analyse this fighter by fighter:

Ward: Like I said, he one of the toughest challenge available in the SUper Six. Quick, can change side, can apply rough tactics if necessary, not afraid to exchange, knows when to grab the other fighter. Bute doesn't like to be in a rough fight as shown in the first fight against Andrade. He can be hit. He start slowly because he's nervous. You got that right. But once the fifth round is around the corner, he gets more confortable, finds his distance. And Ward was hit often in the first four to five rounds by Kessler but was able to absorb the punishment because of Kessler imprecision. Bute is more precise than Kessler so he might be able to tag Ward with a good one. ANd Ward handspeed is not light years away from Bute's. So I still see it as 50/50.

Dirrell: The quickest fighter in the Super Six, really elusive, hard to tag, really quick hands, but lacks power (even tho he hurt Froch in the 10th round) and shows an unwillingness to get hurt to make points, to exchange toe to toe. Bute could have problem with DIrrell speed but so could Dirrell with Bute speed cause Bute would be Dirrell fastest opponent to date. MOre importantly, Dirrell still lacks experience (even tho he gain a good one in his fight with Froch). But because of Dirrell speed I see it 50/50.

Abraham: The meanest of the Super Six. Powerful, Good peekaboo defense that still leaves his stomach opens to shots. One of his shots could drop everyone at 168. Great stamina. Patient fighter that waits for an opening to punish his adversary. He would still have problem with the fact that Bute is a speedy and accurate lefty. Taller. That moves well in the ring, once the nervousness gone. If Bute is as patient as Abraham, the German won't be able to connect too often. But there would be danger for Bute the whole fight. 55/45 Bute

Kessler: Ward victory over Kessler has shown two things about the Dane. First, he doesn't move well in the ring. Secondly, he's not confrotable and can't use effectively his jab with someone that doesn't stay in front of him. Ward wrote the damn blueprint to win against Kessler. Before I would have said that Kessler is the bigger man but seeing him against Ward and the new Bute against Andrade II, it's not the case anymore. Bute and his coach are intelligent enough to make a gameplan with those informations to be able to win a closely contested decision. Bute 55/45

Froch: He is a strong SOB, with the biggest hart and a enormous confidence in him. You can't win by fighting inside with him because he's gonna make you pay. But once we're passed that, there's not much left. Technically the weakest of the Super Six, he went for air a lot against Taylor (eventually getting to the American late) and even more with Dirrell. No precision. No footwork. No defense. Only a puncher chance. Easy Easy UD for Bute 60/40.

Dawson would win against Bute, being the taller, bigger man of the two. Being quick and having good movement in the ring.

You can disagree with me but you'll never see me saying that Bute has no flaws contrary to you who can't be honest enough to acknowledge Bute habilities. We call that esprit critique in French and you don't show a lot with what you write...:hi:

 

The reason I emphasized Bute's weakness is because they are apparent, and quite exploitable by a competent boxer (unlike Andrade). But before you accuse me of being biased, one of my favorite fighters is Jean-Pascal. All of his fights are very entertaining to watch, I could care less if he's Canadian or Egyptian or Half-donkey.

The rest of your assessment is spot-on, save for minor disagreements I have concerning Froch and Kessler, which I outlined in my own analysis. We will see how Bute develops along...as I said before, he should fight Pascal because that is a fight that will test not only his skill, but willpower and heart. It seems when he does not get an opponent out of there, his nervous energy ends up being a heavy weight down the stretch. Just like another good but flawed boxer...Jermaine Taylor.

 

All he did was beat a C level fighter in Andrade and now he's the #1 SM? ahahhahahhahahhahhhha