Bute-Andrade, Chavez-Taylor revisited. This is why ref's should continue their count.

Bute definitely would have beaten a correctly administered count. The problem is that a correctly administered count would have left precious seconds for Andrade to score the KO. He never got that chance, thus we have controversy.

Your point is taken about J.T., it's just it reminds me of the ref counting out Simon Brown. Sometimes common sense beats protocol.

 

This is exactly what happened.

The ref obviously was looking for time to buy for Bute......as soon as Bute was knokdown, the ref looks to see that Andrade was going to the neutral corner.....then he turns to face Bute, but instead of picking up the count, just stares at him for about 3 seconds....he starts the count, then turns back and admonishes Andrade who was only a couple of feet from the ropes in that neutral corner......

The fact that the ref even hesitated to begin a count once he had directed Andrade to the neutral corner, shows me he's a biased, dishonest referee.

Richard Steele gets criticized heavily in forums like this.....but he actually administered the count textbook to Meldrick Taylor.

.....Taylor was down, Steele directed Chavez to the Neutral corner, and though Chavez veered from the Neutral corner......Steele continues his count.....
Once the ref starts a count, he should continue with it and let nothing interfere with it, until he either stops the fight, or determines the fallen fighter can continue.
If the ref deems the fighter fit to continue, and the fighter who scored the knockdown is away from the neutral corner......he can then direct the that fighter to the neutral corner before he lets the fight continue.

This ref in the Bute-Andrade fight, did exactly what those who feel that Chavez-Taylor was a bad stoppage, wanted Richard Steele to do.....and thats buy time for the fallen fighter.

I'll say one thing about those who feel Chavez-Taylor was a travesty of a stoppage.......if you thought Chavez-Taylor was a bad stoppage, then you should have absolutely no complaints and no problem with the refs job tonight in Bute vs Andrade.

Btw, look at the video when the ref calls an end to the final round of Bute-Andrade......Bute is about to walk to his corner and is about to go down again as his legs cant hold him up.
That shows that Bute was not fit to continue, as this is well after the count......
Andrade was indeed robbed tonight!

 

You're correct, there was no time for Andrade, but you cannot be saved by the bell.....that means that the ref still has to deem Bute fit to continue in order to end the fight and have it go to the cards.
.....this ref actually did that, but after he went through with his dishonest shenanigans in buying time for Bute!
.....and even then, Bute is falling over himself as he's walking back to his corner!

 

Ok again (noob)

IBF rule
The bell will not save a boxer in any round of the bout.If a boxer is "downed" just before the 3-minute bell in any round, the referee's count shall continue and the bell will not ring until the boxer rises and his hands clear the floor.

He was up at what ? 8 !!! No times left !!!

What is so hard to understand ?

 

Guys Bute made it up by 8 and the round was over by then as he was KD'd with something like 5 seconds left. The ref was definitely amateurish but the bell would have sounded immediately so it wasn't like Andrade would have had time to do anything.