Bute Andrade - outrageous refereeing

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  1. BoxingTrashTalk

    BoxingTrashTalk Active Member Full Member

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    I haven't read the other responses yet man.

    But he said it 3 times. All he had to do was once. Even twice. And Bute wouldn't have made the count.

    Andrade was robbed hard.

    Begs the question guys. If you were Andrade what would you have done? I would have done a Zab Judah.
     
  2. BoxingTrashTalk

    BoxingTrashTalk Active Member Full Member

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    Actually i heard ref call nine. Seriously.
     
  3. BoxingTrashTalk

    BoxingTrashTalk Active Member Full Member

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    Yeh Josey. Those guys saying hes on Kessler level were giving me the shits. Weirdly enough, i had seen a fair bit of Bute in amateurs, and i know he didn't transform all those mistakes when he went pro.

    Hes still good. But hes about 4th in the division. Id happily put Andrade above Bute.
     
  4. Maxime

    Maxime Sweet Science Full Member

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    Actually, Andrade was almost half way across the ring.

    Not that this gave the ref the okay to scream at Andrade for a good 5-6 seconds giving Bute more time to put himself together.

    But anyone who's telling you Andrade didn't leave his corner is lying.
     
  5. ipswich express

    ipswich express Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That quite simply is not true. He made the count regardless of how many times he said it. If Andrade was out of his corner, the ref is correct in telling him to go back as many times as is necessary until it's done. The truth of the matter is that Andrade got his head caved in for 11 rounds but showed a ton of ticker in to the 12th.
     
  6. BoxingTrashTalk

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    Your probably right. But the fact is, instead of telling him once, the ref said it three times.

    And i can count hundreds of times, the ref allowed the fighter closer, then what Andrade was, and they were let go.

    Its also good to look at Mayweather vs Hatton. Look just before Hatton is KO'd where Floyd is.

    Either way, Andrade was robbed. And Butes stock went down.
     
  7. BoxingTrashTalk

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    It doesn't matter if Bute won 11 rounds. Which he clearly did win close to that, i had him at 9. He got KO'd in the 12th. Andrade won the fight.
     
  8. JOSEY WALES

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    I can't wait to see kessler v Bute mate , did you see kessler ko'ing that Hausser fella on the weekend lmao i realise Bute is head and shoulders above him but still kessler would wipe the floor with him imo , Weird how Bute punched himself out like that though , surley he knew he was draining the tank by the 9th and was going to be in **** street for the remainder of the fight . he was so far ahead he could have taken a breatehr for a few rounds and lost them to ensure he wasn't involved in a near death experience in the later rounds , PS where did you see Bute as an amature ? are you Romanian ?
     
  9. Maxime

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    Bute is the second best at 168lbs based on his resume...or the lack of other people with better resume.

    No one at 168lbs right now has fought and beat better opposition in the last 2 years.

    Who would you rank ahead of him?

    Froch? He's never fought a top10 (even top20) opponent.
    Inkin? Same...
    Mundine? Just look at his recent opposition....

    Bute is second pretty much by default.

    There is a LOT of very talented fighter in the division but none of them has done more then Bute in recent years at 168lbs.
     
  10. pecks

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    Fair enough. I still have issues about Bute not being made to walk forward ect, and if thats solely up to the discretion of the referee than imo it's something that needs to be looked at.
     
  11. ipswich express

    ipswich express Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I take it that because you didn't respond to the first part of my post, you agree that Bute was on his feet before the count of 10? Andrade might have won the fight in your mind, but on paper where it counts the IBF champion is still Bute...
     
  12. ipswich express

    ipswich express Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As far as I'm aware, it's just another method of registering the indicia displayed by a fighter after a knock down. It's like asking "Do you know where you are?", "Do you still want to fight?", "Raise up your gloves", "walk forward".
     
  13. BoxingTrashTalk

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    Yeh the first thing i thought when Kessler threw that combination is, damm! Calzaghe has to love this. Kessler will not be beaten at 168. And i tip him to beat pretty much everyone at 175, other then Dawson, and also Hopkins is a toss up. I think Kessler has enough skills to do some damage on B-Hop.

    But on Bute punching himself out. I have seen a lot of amateur footage of him. One of my mates is a big fan of his, and he has it all.

    As an amateur : Bute was KO'd cold a couple of times. Well i saw one video of him, and getting KO'd aswell.

    And he always had stamina problems.
     
  14. TheDuke

    TheDuke Let me marry Boxed Ears Full Member

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    why defend what happened?

    It was corrupt as ****
     
  15. BoxingTrashTalk

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    Technically yes. But i ordered a pizza, waited for the guy to deliver it, gave him a tip. And then went down the road to see my friend. Came back home and the count was still going.

    Sure he got up before 10. But 10 was actually 24.