Bute Andrade - outrageous refereeing

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  1. BoxingTrashTalk

    BoxingTrashTalk Active Member Full Member

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    He said "six twice", can't be completely accurate.

    Even if telling Andrade was right.

    6 goes to 7.
     
  2. ipswich express

    ipswich express Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He takes up his count with the timekeeper. It's the timekeeper's responsibility. On top of that, Bute made it to his feet anyway, so it's irrelevant.
     
  3. BoxingTrashTalk

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    Okay but you can see that if Andrade was in his corner, Bute would have had a KO loss in the 12th?
     
  4. Sox

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    I think you're playing with ya tackle. :nut

    I don't see any corruption at all, let alone blatant corruption.
    Andrade broke the rules and that's that (at least from the footage I've seen).

    I haven't seen the whole fight, but from what I heard, Bute had him licked for the vast majority of the fight, so I don't see how that makes his reputation ruined.
    I don't feel he would have given Kessler too much trouble anyway, regardless of this fight.

    I think a lot of hoohah has been made over nothing. :gayfight
     
  5. ipswich express

    ipswich express Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, because he beat the count!!!!!!!! There was no time left. All he had to do was stand before 10 (which he did!) and show he could continue if necessary. That's the only point of conjecture.
     
  6. BoxingTrashTalk

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    You follow the rules to much.

    Im going to start calling you David Gallop.
     
  7. ipswich express

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  8. TheDuke

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    I don't get the politics of this. You can be pedantic about rules, but in the spirit of the contest Bute lost. In the spirit of fairness, the referee officiated in a way that went beyond inept.

    I have no bias against Bute or any particular fondness for Andrade, but the point is, that the referee did everything in his power, not to count Bute out.
     
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  10. WhataRock

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    I actually agree with Ippy. Though the ref did go out of his way to help Bute, Andrade would have not gotten a chance to finish him and in the end whatever way you look at it Bute got up before 10.

    The bell went later because you cant be saved by the bell and the ref had not finished his count.

    And Andrade did leave the corner, there is plenty of evidence of this.

    Rematch I say.
     
  11. teke

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    we can all agree Bute got his arse handed to him at the end
     
  12. Sox

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    How so?
    Disregarding the ref being distracted, Bute was up before 10 no matter which way you look at it.
    There would have been no time for any fighting to continue.
     
  13. BoxingTrashTalk

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    How so? Presuming Andrade obeyed the rules.

    Theres no way Bute would have been up before an uninterupted count of 10.
     
  14. Sox

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    But he was before 10, count it yourself on the video.
    He was up at somewhere between 8 and 9.
     
  15. ipswich express

    ipswich express Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly, it's like talking to a wall...