Bute-Andrade's opinion

You're right but the referee was a disgrace

 

**** Canada is the wrong thing to say.

**** the ref is the right thing to say.

 

This was Chavez-Taylor all over again lol. Bute made it to his feet, only the guy who got up won. A very good fight, but you could see Andrade's body attack was wilting Bute. Bute is a poor man's Calzaghe, but he did get up. The ref is one of the worst referee's I've ever seen, and he won't be doing big fights ever again. Had the ref continued his count, he would've stopped the fight. I'm glad that the ref didn't stop the fight and did count, but the delay was the worst. Andrade deserves a rematch, and I see him as the champ. Bute got up and that is hard to do when everything has been taken out of you so he gets credit also. Yeah, I'm American, and they act like bad decisions don't happen here lol. I read some of the felonious comments. Don't let them get to you.

 

I agree, I'm from Montreal and fan of Bute. Andrade deserves his revenge.

 

Bute deserved to lose but it's the ref's fault.This was a bad night

 

The ref (from Montreal) was either bribed or incompetent. I'd go with bribed but incompetent is just as bad.

Whether you like it or not this is the first big fight we see in Canada in a long time. The results reflect badly.

Even in a 3rd world country like Mexico Nate got the win and Chavez was booed off the stage for his win(which was actually pretty close).

What about Canada? Cheering for a robbery.

 

No it's not. This fight is truly clear as to what the result should have been (and this is coming form a Chavez fan).

 

I'm back from my friend's place.

I still can't believe the ref disgraced the the sport of boxing like that. It is a slap in the face of the boxing fans in Montreal. We worked so hard to gain credibility and he took it away in a heart beat.

Congrats to Andrade AND Bute who both fought their hearts out and gave us a great fight.

**** the damn referee!!!

 

Andrade won rounds 4 (close) and 5 (clearly) before the 12th for me.

The ref allowed Bute to hold and clinch a bit too much, but then started giving him warnings. Gave him two warnings by the end. However, the ref also split up the clinches too much when Andrade was roughing Bute up on the inside. So...he allowed Bute to save himself too much by clinching, and then he saved Bute too much by breaking up the inside fight Andrade was winning, in the clinches. Although biased, I don't think the ref went over the line in this respect.

About the Andrade knock down. Not sure what happened but he certainly seemed to slip too...should not have been called a KD.

About the last round:

Whatever decision the ref would have taken, it would have been controversial. To me, it seemed Bute beat the count: he was up on his feet and held his hands up ready to continue by 8-9. However, Bute also looked like he would have gotten KOed by the first Andrade punch. Was the count too long? If so, it was a robbery. If the count was not too long and Bute beat the count and then ding ding, it was over before Andrade had a chance to finish him off, he won fair. But was Bute in a position to continue, even if he did beat the clock? If not, the ref should have waved it off and called it a TKO win for Andrade. If yes...then Bute made it...just! I don't know what to think. I don't know what the fair decision would have been. The count was dodgy, but I am not sure, yet, how long it was, etc. Need to rewatch it.

I want a rematch.

Andrade left it much too late to really apply pressure on Bute. He didn't follow up on his good work in the 5th. Bute didn't let him either. When he went all crazy, though, Andrade was getting the better of Bute.

About Larouche: I think he did a great job and I disagree that he shouldn't have spurned Bute on in the final round. Bute was ver, very tired in the 11th round and he needed to be spurned on. Larouche knew that he needed to give his all in the final round to make it. "Do you want to be a Champion? Go out and fight!" The righ words! I'm proud of Larouche and Bute that they didn't decide to run in the last round. Bute might have won fair and square, but it would have looked much worse for him and his team.

Whatever you think of the referee's decision, you have to give credit to Andrade for giving his all in the final round and [almost]KOing Bute and winning the fight, you have to give Bute credit for a good fight from rounds 1-11 and you have to give him credit for his heart in the final round: He went toe to toe with Andrade instead of running. He didn't take a knee to save himself and buy time when he got hurt. He fought very bravely to beat the clock. He won my respect for that in the last round.

Was it a fair decision? I am not sure it was. The ref could have saved Bute at any stage during the last seconds and called it a TKO. It would have been controversial, but Bute was out on his feet. As it happened, he let Bute take a beating, go down, gave what appeared to be a dodgy count which Bute appeared to beat, Bute still looked out on his feet but he was away from the ropes, his arms together ready to go...and ding ding...end of the fight.

Controversial ending for sure, but I think it would have been controversial even if the ref had waved it off after Bute beat the count, just before the final bell. People would have said: Bute beat the clock but the ref stopped it because Andrade would have had no time to finish Bute off before the final bell, so he wanted to give Andrade the win. Robbery!

Not sure whether it was a correct decision, I really don't.:deal Maybe someone with more knowledge of the rules and with a better understanding of what went on could explain what the right decision would have been.

Does Andrade deserve a rematch? SURE!

Is Bute at fault for anything that happened? NO! Except for clinching too much, which he did what he had to do.

Make the fight in the USA with an American referee, Smoger, preferably.

Rematch!:deal

 

How good that our best Canadian posters can be objective in a time like this.

I also liked Bute, but even as a fan I feel that this is hurting.

Let's all appeal to the Bute camp to reverse this or at the VERY LEAST announce a rematch in California tomorrow. Bute and Canada's reputation is going downhill and fast. Maybe Canada will take over the throne from Germany of the place for corrupt boxing. Action has to come fast though.

 

Guys..., remember PAVLIK vs TAYLOR 1, Pavliks was OUT, and the ref still give him a chance to go on.

 

:good

 

Rematch is just the normal thing to happen

 

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!! i dont think i could have said it better myself. i to want a rematch to let andrade show he is the better man and then a rubber match. this has all the makings of a classic trilogy to be remembered forever.