Bute - Berrio Analysis

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  1. Leipziger

    Leipziger New Member Full Member

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    For those of you who saw the fight what are your observations? My impression is that Bute was leading the fight at the time of the knockout but it was still fairly close. The scorecards reported seem to have a bit of homer advantage to me. Bute was leading by a couple of rounds but not as much as the scorecards indicated. Berrio was a little better than I expected and Bute was not as dominant as he was against Bute. Berrio seemed to be a better fighter than Bika other than having a weaker chin.

    The positives for Bute was that he showed more power than I expected and at times was able to pick Berrio apart. Considering Berrio came in as the puncher and Bute as the tactician it was my impression that Bute had more power than Berrio. He certainly landed the better power shots of the two. The negatives is that he was too passive and didn't consistently dominate Berrio like he did Bika. He let Berrio control the pace too often. Bute at times left himself too open and had to resort to clutching to get himself out of trouble. Berrio left himself open even more than Bute did and while Bute exploited this I think he could have been far more efficient and put Berrio out earlier. That being said the knockout was very impressive, Berrio was out on his feet and completely unable to defend himself. It was good the ref jumped in so quick to stop it because it looked like it could have been dangerous for Berrio otherwise.

    In summary I think it was a good fight for Bute and he is a more deserving champion than Berrio. On the other hand I think he is still a couple of years away from having much chance of beating Calzaghe or Kessler. He might give them a good fight but I couldn't see him winning. I doubt Calzaghe would have much interest in fighting Bute at this point in his career but I think Bute should fight some more quality opponents for a couple of years before taking on a fighter like Kessler.
     
  2. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    My impression on the fight:

    Berrio plus points:

    Berrio wasn't afraid to go in and do the business...he was the one coming forward for most of the fight...

    He won the middle rounds and checked Bute's chin successfully

    He was fit and strong...looked fitter than Bute

    Didn't hold as much as Bute and was "clean"...didn't cheat...went low only once or twice...didn't use his head or anything like that...

    Berrio used his firepower well - his strategy was good on the inside, and it worked...he was dominating Bute and looked confortable for the vast majority of time...looked in control...Bute didn't hurt him to the head very much, even when he tagged him.

    Berrio hurt Bute with the left hook (I think) to the right eye...great shot

    Berrio minus points

    Bad chin...whenever Bute had the upper hand, andwas hurting him, Berrio was shakey...in the 11th, Bute hit him 3-4 times flush in the corner and Berrio was finished...ref stopped it...Berrio would have fallen down if Bute had pushed him with his little finger...

    Bute plus points

    Bute DOES NOT have chin problems...he was hit hard by Berrio a couple of times, and he didn't look in trouble

    Whatever his strategy was...cause it wasn't pretty, it worked...Berrio couldn't fight him in that phonebox as he was planning

    Bute got better in the 10 round and at his best, he dominated Berrio much more clearly than Berrio was dominating him in the middle rounds, at any point.

    Bute found the distance and rhythm to tag Berrio...it took him some time but he figured Berrio out and after round 8, he never looked like he would lose anymore...

    Bute showed some good skills and some heart towards the end, when the fight came alive, in the 10th round...and he had the skill and power to KO Berrio.

    Bute minus points

    Oh, dear...quite a few...this wasn't Bute at his best...he looked slow, hesitant, he held WAY too much whenever Berrio fought him on the inside, he didn't look fit, he was tiring badly in the middle rounds.

    His strategy was overly careful and hesitant and "not cricket" (the holding)...but I guess it worked...on the other hand, if he wanted to win, this is exactly what he had to do...unless he wanted to risk being KDed....


    Conclusion

    I gave Bute the early early rounds, Berrio the middle rounds and at the end of the 8th round, I had them 4-4, with a slight edge to Bute...

    Bute went ahead in the 9th and dominated clearly in the 10th and was all over him in the 11th...when he was looking to end it...

    Berrio wasn't skilled but he is dangerous. He made Bute look bad because Bute had to employ a strategy against him that included some holding and running and being very careful...still preferable to getting KOed from the point of view of Bute, because Berrio WENT for it for sure!

    Bute can win even if he has to make it not so pretty and he does figure his opponents out in the end (in the same way he figured Bika out and then dominated him), BUT he needs to become better than he was tonight to have a chance against the Calzaghe and Kessler...a BIG improvement is needed...

    I expected Bute to develop more since his fight against Bika...which wasn't an easy fight either...but he didn't...and this fight wasn't Bute at his best.

    Also, Bute was intimidated too much by Berrio...he was too cautious...of course, when you know that a mistake can switch your lights off, that is understandable...but still...Bute needs to prove his heart a bit more for me...and I don;t understand why he was tiring so...

    To Bute fans:

    It wasn't great, but the strategy worked and Bute deserved to win. I guess he felt he had to employ the strategy he did to minimise his chances of a loss...we all know Bute is an intelligent fighter, so, he will do what it takes to NOT lose, and will press his advantage when he gets a chance.

    This fight reminded me of the Bika fights...Bute warms his way into the fight and gets better and better and then he takes over and cushes his opponent. Bute is a winner...I guess we all wanted to see fireworks, but REMEMBER...Bute isn't a fool and he isn't Mexican either...:lol:

    Bute needs to learn more and develop more...but so far so good...he might not be as ready for the big time as we thought he might be, but as long as he keeps on beating Top 10 guys and getting better...it's looking good.

    Go BUTE!:happy
     
  3. Hawks28

    Hawks28 Active Member Full Member

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    I think the scores were accurate, I have no problem with 97-93 or 98-92.

    I agree with you about Bute being too passive at times. I thought he could have let that straight left go a little more at certain times, because it was quite effective, he was landing it at a high % when he threw it. He also had some excellent counter right hooks. Also thought he could have used the jab a little more. Also was a little surprised at him holding to get out of trouble, was mostly early on in the fight though, I thought his foot movement might've been a little quicker moving away from Berrio, but it wasnt a big problem at all. Overall, I was happy with Butes performance.

    I dont see him beating Kessler or Calzaghe though, and I agree that there is no way Joe would be interested in fighting him now, probably wouldnt be enough money there.
     
  4. Maxime

    Maxime Sweet Science Full Member

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    I gave Bute 7 of the first 10 rounds. Clear cut decision in my opinion.
     
  5. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Would you please analyse the fight for us in detail, Maxime? What were your impressions?
     
  6. boxfan99

    boxfan99 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I gave him 8, I had him losing round 3 and 6 if I recall correctly.
     
  7. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Well, I give Bute credit for a solid performance:yep .I still see HOLES but hey?? The guy's winning and putting himself among the top, and only a loss can change that.:good

    Berrio was applyied consistent right hand pressure and had moments where he outworked Bute a couple of rounds. I didnt see it as close, but I guess ya gotta credit Berrio for his effort.

    $$$$$$$$$ on the mind and the youngin on his "grind":good

    Do I think Bute can deal with Kessler, Calzaghe, or Pavlik? :lol: :rofl :nono

    So who's next then after the real Champ faces the number 1 on 11.03?? A guy like Kelly Pavlik has impressed more and could have significantly more meaning. As Bute's belt is only token in meaning right now. JC won it beating Lacy, Berrio picked it up next, and Bute just won it tonight.

    Theres no question the real champion will be KNOWN AFTER 11/03!! IMO Bute needs at least 1 more fight before facing that winner, who's it gonna be?? A tomato can might be self serving but NOT USEFUL. He needs to prepare and only a quality guy can help there.
     
  8. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Yes!:good
     
  9. boxfan99

    boxfan99 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I would love to see a Bute-Mundine fight (If Mundine recovers). I would find it very hard to pick a winner in that fight.
     
  10. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Here is my analysis -

    I bet 500$ on the under 10 and 1/2 and won it by 5 seconds because Bute was too timid and didn't showcase adequate stamina. Berrio was a leaky defence, glass jawed, weak champ with nothing but height, reach and power that doesn't come along with top class timing of course and Bute had bad spots.

    Bute also showed a leaky defence, but he did show a really good chin. Not a great body, but a great chin, there is no doubt that Bute can take a shot to the jaw. Bute showed decent power, just rarely followed up enough to spark this guy until 5 seconds before my bet was going to be lost.

    I'm quite disapointed with that performance, Kessler and JC would massacre him unless he improves. He still would probably beat Mundine.

    Bute needs serious work, it is no time to step in with masters like the winner of JC/MK anytime soon. I am not even convinced that Bute shoudl be a clear favourite over the likes of B level Kelly Pavlik and I'd certainly pick Andrade to press him and wear him down.

    That is all.
     
  11. boxfan99

    boxfan99 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    But you think he beats Mundine.:huh
     
  12. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Humble assesment mate:yep

    Pavlik will STEAMROLL, like a Molten Youngstown experience, believe it:good

    JC vs MK??


    :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

    Who should he fight next??


    THATS THE QUESTION:D
     
  13. Maxime

    Maxime Sweet Science Full Member

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    Of course. Nobody is going to argue that.
     
  14. boxfan99

    boxfan99 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He should fight either Froch, Braehmer or Inkin (Mundine would be to much to ask for as a first defense). But I think/fear that he will fight either Beyer or somebody outside the Rings top 10.
     
  15. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Different styles. Mundine would KO Pavlik, Pavlik would have a good shot at beating Bute.