Bute is just not durable too fragile and vulnerable.......

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  1. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he doesn't assimilate punishment very well, and when he gets bumrushed and caught he freezes. He has a weak mandible and his confidence in his ability to take a shot is gone.

    The big punchers and power guys are his kryptonite all they have to do is rush in land some hard stuff and Butte is done or becomes so timid you can rest and regroup after each ambush.

    too many bruisers at 175 with Kovalev and Stevens and the days of the Bhops and Froch's will soon be over, its akin to talkies taking over the silent era in movies.

    the big question is just how good Ward is and will he survive these punchers? Bute however, is done at the very top at 175
     
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  2. TowersOfIce

    TowersOfIce Max Kellerman ruined HBO Full Member

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    Bute is mentally ruined. He's haunted by the Froch fight. He's a nice boy; he'll always be a nice boy, but his days as a contender are gone.
     
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  3. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Dawson would 119-109 Bute right now and would somehow manage to even punish him.
     
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  4. Bald_Toad

    Bald_Toad Ring Title Full Member

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    bingo
     
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  5. Vinegar Hill

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    Froch isn't a 175 pounder.
     
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  6. rapscalion

    rapscalion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He just sucks all around really
     
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  7. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was never at the top at 175, he was one of the top guys at 168. Kovalev and Stevenson would probably brutally knock him out. He'd struggle in a rematch with Pascal and he'd probably struggle to get back down to 168 without being weight drained. Froch may well have ended his career as a top level fighter.
     
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  8. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pascal doesn't have a lot to brag about either.Very poor performance from the loud mouthed cretin.He is far from "elite" himself.
    Best cash in on those cheques in Quebec cause he won't be getting any big paydays anywhere else.
     
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  9. Lemonade

    Lemonade Titanium Chin Full Member

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    Lucy Bootay is cool.
     
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  10. Kel1981

    Kel1981 P4P No.1 Full Member

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    If you watch footage of him before and after the Froch fight you can see he has become too cautious and lacks confidence. Not many fighters come back after a one-sided beating.
     
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  11. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Highly skilled, intelligent fighter

    Id have given him a great chance vs Ward - and at the time that would have been one hell of a match up
     
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  12. iamtheman

    iamtheman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I still think he can overcome his mental block from the Froch fight, if managed properly.

    What needs to be done is put him in with light touches, the kind he can dominate, and better yet, KTFO, so he can start believing in his power again. He needs to be built up gradually. The Grachev fight didn't do anything for his confidence level.

    He's not shot physically, he's not shot skills wise, it's all mental, so I feel that after a few dominating performances his confidence can be brought back gradually.
     
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  13. iamtheman

    iamtheman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mental weakness is an unfortunate thing, but the resulting effects of it are not necessarily permanent. Not all trauma cases are emotional wrecks for life. I still have confidence in him if managed correctly.
     
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  14. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    To summarize, he has a GLASS JAW!:deal
     
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  15. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Bute has no business fighting at LHW, bad career move... His whiskers are definitely below average. Still there are far worse mandibles in boxing than his.
     
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