Bute-Jack Changed To DQ

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  1. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Peterson didnt fail the test in the first fight. Happened before the rematch, which was cancelled due to it.
    Not saying Peterson was clean the first time, but he didnt get busted.
     
  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    PBF was found innocent cleared by USADA and NSAC the IV contained no Roids only saline to hydrate to produce a urine sample. Bute on the other hand was on roids and failed a test. I see still years later you're still bitter. PBF UD #48 now then and forever deal with it.:wave:
     
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  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Two entirely different scenarios jackass go back and study the cases. Stop coming up with this stuff and accept the loss and move on. This is how you always shut clowns like you up about this topic if PBF did something illegal why in the hell didn't Top Rank who hates PBF or Pac himself make a big deal about it? And force a full investigation. I'll tell you why because there was nothing done that was illegal that's why. Only wishful thinkers and PBF haters who can't come to terms with the loss keep holding out hope and praying for PBF's downfall. The decision will never be overturned because he did nothing wrong.
     
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  4. There Will Be Blood

    There Will Be Blood #TheMedicalTeam #750 banned Full Member

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    You're a moron. Allow me to own you.

    1) Floyd independently contracted, and paid out of pocket way above the normal fee for competition testing, for USADA's services. That means that Floyd stipulated that a TUE can be issued on a case by case basis.

    2) The saline solution does not contain PEDs (moron). However, excessive saline use is a popular means of cycling/masking PEDs from an athlete's system. Get educated!

    3) Circling back to my first point, they tested under the terms of the USADA contract, which Floyd's lawyers drafted to allow them to be shady. The TUE was issued within the guidelines of the USADA contract. Basically, the TUE is a legal firewall because it's within the contract that TUEs can be granted. No legal ground for a case.

    You are right about one thing, though. It's a different scenario w/ the BJ Penn case because BJ Penn didn't pay USADA $150,000 out of his own pockets for a customized anti-doping program.

    Floyd was @ 150 thirty days out from the weigh in. Floyd walks around around his fight night weight (Floyd and his fans love reminding the public of this discipline) and was 146 on fight night. He had TWO conditioning coaches and a personal chef. You mean to tell me Floyd was severely dehydrated and had killed himself to lose 4 pounds in 30 days? No one noticed that he was severely dehydrated?

    Oh, and Floyd passed the pre-fight medical exam and was approved for combat. If Floyd was severely dehydrated, which would be the ONLY reason he would require 750 ml of IV fluids, he wouldn't have been allowed to fight and his ass would have gone to the ER. Floyd looked strong as an ox and most Floyd nuthuggers predicted a KO after seeing him at the weigh in.

    The guy is a doping cheat. Beyond the IV scandal, there are published lab results of Floyd having the T/E ratio of a centenarian. CLEAR SIGN OF DOPING.

    Floyd also rejected VADA and the $5 million dollar per dirty test penalty!

    {AOL Voice} You've Been Owned!
     
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  5. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This still has that large a hold on you. You're coming from a totally bias pov and almost everything you claim is utter nonsense. Nothing "illegal", you mean nothing AGAINST the rules was done, if there was it would had been brought to light.

    The commission still runs the show, usada doesn't become boxing temporary commission, it's still has to follow boxing (not only usada who you say works for fmj, boxing master, your stupidity knows no means)

    UD12 WIDE too
     
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  6. There Will Be Blood

    There Will Be Blood #TheMedicalTeam #750 banned Full Member

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    There's nothing biased about my point of view. In fact, it's not even my point of view. It's cold, hard, irrefutable facts.
    • Floyd received 750 ml of IV fluids (clear violation and 14X the allowable limit as set by WADA)
    • Floyd was issued a TUE by USADA (which initially was reprimanded by the NSAC)
    • Floyd was 150 thirty days out from fight night and passed ALL pre-fight medical exams (no severe dehydration)
    • If Floyd needed 750 ml of IV fluids, he needed immediate hospitalization (instead, he went home and had his own medical team hook him up to fluids)
    • Months later, BJ Penn was suspended and fined by USADA (lol) for receiving IV fluids under the guidance of a DOCTOR and during OUT-OF-COMPETITION TRAINING
    Again, this isn't my opinion. Your hero needed IVs to cycle off the drugs. Deal with it.
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I haven't been owned but one thing is true you're still bitter. The case is closed all the other stuff is bull**** and not true. Answer me this boxing master if pbf was doing something illegal why didn't arum or pac raise hell and launch an independent investigation? People like you have no answer for that. And will duck and Dodge that question all day.
     
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  8. There Will Be Blood

    There Will Be Blood #TheMedicalTeam #750 banned Full Member

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    I already answered it, you moron. Floyd contracted w/ USADA for a customized testing program, which included a clause stipulating that a TUE can be issued on a case by case basis. Therefore, there is no legal ground for which TR/Arum/Pacquiao to pursue legal action. What independent investigation is there to be had? Nothing was hidden. USADA allowed Floyd to get away w/ breaking WADA code. And the NSAC backed Floyd up. There is NOTHING to investigate.

    Why was Floyd severely dehydrated?

    How did Floyd become severely dehydrated without detection from his entire team? Why didn't he simply drink some water or Pedialyte?

    Severe dehydration is a life threatening condition. How did he pass the pre-fight medical exam? Why didn't he check into a hospital to cover his basis?
     
  9. NoNeck

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    I think Manny Pacquiao should've been DQ'd against Floyd for using Celestone, which is a steroid.
     
  10. drenlou

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    Good! I thought Jack clearly beat Bute.
     
  11. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Should have been declared no contest & Mayweather suspended indefinitely or at least until he could miraculously come up with a logical explanation why he needed to CHEAT! by receiving an illegal 750 ml of saline in his own home.
    There is one serious problem about that though, WHO is going uphold the law
    and do whats right THE NSAC ??? One problem there . it was the NSAC themselves that granted Mayweather the TUE THREE WEEKS AFTER he was caught receiving it& issued the statement " Mr Mayweather did nothing wrongs we will not be investigating:" ROFLMAO!!! they were up to their asses in the
    CHEATING THEMSELVES !!!! Do you still think boxing isn't
    :BLATANTLY CORRUPT : ???????????????????????????
     
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  12. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Like how Lance Armstrong never failed a test? He was able to purchase a bunch of TUE's as well. He even donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to buy more PED testing equipment. Oh the ironing. And we all know Lance Armstrong is as innocent as they come, just like Fluid. Am I right?
     
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  13. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The notation from the Boxrec listing :

    "Lucian Bute failed doping test. The WBC said that the D.C. commission revealed it found the banned substance Ostarine. The DC commission changed the result from a draw to a disqualification loss for Bute".
     
  14. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Ledebev vs Jones should be changed to a DQ win for Ledebev as well.
     
  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    No one ever claimed the 750 ml of saline contained Roids. The excessive 750 ml of saline was needed to MASK the previous use of illegal roids. I know that the NSAC know that and you know it if youre honest. no one needs 750 ml to make em pee if theY did tey'd be in ICU not in a boxing