Bute vs Mendy

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  1. Fitir

    Fitir Active Member Full Member

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    On the paper Mendy will be by far the most naturally talented opponent on Bute's record. He was silver medalist at the goodwill games, beaten for 1 point by the 2 times olympic champ A.Hernandez, he collected bronze twice at the euro CS and once at the world CS.
    He has serous skills and he should have been even more succesful as a pro because of his power. In the young ranks he was a KO artist, at age 16 he destroyed Mormeck who was 18.
    I still don't understand how he became a clubfighter as a pro. This chance comes late and it's not a gift. Bute is not a normal titleholder, he could become THE world SMW champ.
    Mendy was caught cold by Bika and he was mocked by Bute's team, Canadian boxing sites and forums etc.. I rarely read such a disrespectful attitude about a guy who built his career without a promoter, who fought guys like Kanfouah or Hanshaw without $$$ to prepare etc. Mendy was told he is considered like a clown... Seems he prepared as well as possible, he is usually too cool but Bute's attitude motivated him to show he is not so bad.
     
  2. BatTheMan

    BatTheMan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why was the weigh-in this early BTW? It must have been some 36 hours before the fight?

    Does anyone know?
     
  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I see what you are trying to say, but overall -

    Bute beat Bika - better than Ward,
    Miranda - better than Ward,
    Andrade twice, (Andrade was a top 3 SMW at the time)
    Joppy,
    Zuniga, better than Cloud and Cloud beating Zuniga has put him above Dawson (by The Ring)
    Brinkley
    Berrio - Holds a win over Steiglitz
    Magee was European champ and world rated fighter who hasnt lost in 10 fights

    Ward has beaten
    Kessler - A very good win better than any name on Bute resume but remember that Kessler was an unwell fighter
    Miranda
    Green - who lost to Miranda and was KOd by G Johnson in his 40s in his very next fight
    Bika who hadnt fought many rounds in a while
    Abraham on a winning run of 1 injury victory and 2 very decisive Super 6 losses.

    Abraham, Miranda, Green and Bika arent as accomplished SMWs as Magee for example.
    Overall Bute has a better SMW resume than Ward, though if Ward can beat Froch it would bump Ward up.


    Who at SMW is Bute meant to fight at this time?
    Mendy is undefeated and although he was KOd illegally by Bika, we dont know how that fight would have gone. Look at Dirrell / Abraham, that finished in a similar way
     
  4. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    has mendy recovered from his first round demolition that bika put on him ? BIKA KO1 Mendy?? oh i mean Bika KO1/LDQ1 Mendy
     
  5. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    that was a bull**** DQ and everyone knew it... we know how it would have went...about another 10 seconds had he gotten up
     
  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Do you consider Abraham - Dirrell a BS DQ? They look very similar. So as said you dont know. Some fighters take many big shots but an off guard illegal one does more damage sometimes (Im not saying Mendy can or cant take a shot), look at Michalczewski - Rocchigiani one for example
     
  7. Samurai's Slice

    Samurai's Slice ESB Legend Full Member

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    Thanks, I am a huge Bute fan but he still has a lot to prove. I think he may beat Andre Ward if he will fight him. His knockouts over Libardo Andrade and Edison Miranda proof how good he really is. But he needs to fight, Carl Froch, Andre Ward, Mikkel Kessler, Andre Dirrell, Glen Johnson or Kelly Pavlik to say just how good.
     
  8. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    def think dirrell was full of ****....

    but i was more along the lines of saying while he hit him and he was somewhat down....or almost down....the ref wasnt there to stop it...and if i remember correctly he was told to DQ him....because he didnt see it or see it as a foul
     
  9. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    its just no fun for me to watch a guy that everyone has ranked #1 , fight guys that have no chance....mgee was bald and pathetic, brinkley is a glorified elite club fighter...mendy just got knocked out in a round.... i like bute...im just not gonna fire up the grill and have people over to watch a fight where hes gonna dominate....i like to know that maybe theres a chance that this will turn into a fight.....a world title fight, i excpect more than what he has went up against latley
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I understand what you are saying but overall Bute has a better SMW resume than Ward

    Bute beat Bika - better than Ward,
    Miranda - better than Ward,
    Andrade twice, (Andrade was a top 3 SMW at the time)
    Joppy,
    Zuniga, better than Cloud and Cloud beating Zuniga has put him above Dawson (by The Ring)
    Brinkley
    Berrio - Holds a win over Steiglitz
    Magee was European champ and world rated fighter who hasnt lost in 10 fights

    Ward has beaten
    Kessler - A very good win better than any name on Bute resume but remember that Kessler was an unwell fighter
    Miranda
    Green - who lost to Miranda and was KOd by G Johnson in his 40s in his very next fight
    Bika who hadnt fought many rounds in a while
    Abraham on a winning run of 1 injury victory and 2 very decisive Super 6 losses.

    Abraham, Miranda, Green and Bika arent as accomplished SMWs as Magee for example.
    Overall Bute has a better SMW resume than Ward, though if Ward can beat Froch it would bump Ward up.


    Who at SMW is Bute meant to fight at this time?
     
  11. dru626

    dru626 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Good post. We are on the same page.
     
  12. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Bute: The last Kilo, I lost it this morning and it was quite difficult.


    1 kilogram = 2.204 pounds
     
  13. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    bs fight. bute will waste his youth fighting prime fighters ala calzaghe . ah well he isnt the best SMW in the world. that is Mr. Andre Ward
     
  14. dru626

    dru626 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    time will tell
     
  15. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How much time until the card ?