Bute's camp rips Froch. He is Avoiding Bute. Ward is a man of his word.

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  1. van_pelt

    van_pelt Member Full Member

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    Just because he says (Froch) beating Bute it's easy, doesn't mean it really is. We all know that boxing consists in two things: FIGHTING and MM - that is media mumbo-jumbo, why should it be any different this time? Froch and Ward are ducking Bute big time if the fight does not happen after S6 final. I do not care what anyone else thinks, the fact is the belt is there for the taking, go get it if you're so tough as you say you are!

    I find it so incredibly stupid to refuse to unify the belts because the other guy isn't near your level. That's just one more reason to fight him! Rubbish, rubbish, rubbish. Carl Froch isn't making any sense. In fact, what he is making are a whole lot of excuses. I'm starting to think the only way we'll see Bute - Froch is for Froch to lose the S6 final with Andre Ward.
     
  2. van_pelt

    van_pelt Member Full Member

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    If Froch loses the Super Six final with A.Ward and goes for a shot at possibly Kessler's WBO belt (if he beats Stieglitz), he'll do it just because it is the easiest to get between the two (WBO & IBF), nothing more than that. Whoever thinks something else is wrong in this case.
     
  3. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    There's no bigger challange than Bute at SMW after "beating Ward".
     
  4. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Nobody has earned bad talking 1 guy when he doesn't walk-the-walk.
     
  5. FPJ

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    Froch's team realized there's a BIG possibility he'll lose the S6 final (wish Froch would win, but i doubt it). If that happens, Froch will have 2 losses in his resume. Thats too much for an aspiring "best at his weight" boxer.

    Now Froch isnt a ducker but...if he immediately faces Bute, chances are he'll have 3 losses (and dont kid yourselves, outside the trash talking, Froch is aware of Bute's skills) and that would be a career ending at 168. He might not be afraid of facing Bute but he's surely afraid of losing his status among the 168'ers. Its a high risk fight for Froch.

    I,for one, hope they make it happen. I respect both boxers and feel they both need this fight to happen, no matter the S6 outcome.

    Edit: Please stop with the whole "Bute doesnt deserve" nonsense, everyone who's seen him fight knows he belongs there.
     
  6. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    SOB Ward refused to allow Bute to fight in his tournament, a tournament in which SOB does not have to travel while all his opponents do. SOB gets his referee, gets to break the rules. SOB gets to use his head, butts are legal for him. How did SOB get that deal?
     
  7. JunitoJab

    JunitoJab Antagonist Full Member

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    Calling Froch a ducker :rofl
     
  8. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Froch doesn't think like that, his confidence and self-belief are the strongest almost delusional. He actually believes some of his own bull****.
    I don't think Froch takes in consideration what will happen if he loses, and goes as far as you go with having 2 losses after the S6 and having 3 after he fight Bute. He might actually think the exact opposite to that, if ppl won't rate as the best, because he lost... then came back with a win against the Freshest best thing out there - Bute - and then rematch Ward.
     
  9. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    This will be Froch ducking Bute for the 2nd time, after the IBF eliminator he refused in 2007 i think , he got his title shot for a vacant belt 1 year later.
     
  10. FPJ

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    I know he's confident. Thats why i like him as a boxer. He's got heart, but he has a team behind him. In my opinion, Froch played his card perfectly here. Depending on the outcome of the S6, most people will believe he either tried to hype that fight or that he genuinely believes Bute's not worthy.

    If you think about it, it doesnt really make sense that he keeps mentioning Bute before the most importand match of his career. He must have an agenda.
     
  11. Sidious

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    well if he loose to ward and choose to face bute and loose again we can call him a jurneyman,no better than johnson.when you face kessler,ward and bute and loose to all of them you are just a brawler with a big mouth.so he already lost to kessler,he's about to loose to ward (i hope he won't) and will face this: fight bute,loose and earn a "B level fighter" status or duck him and still be considered A level.my guess is that's why kessler took the stieglitz road,he needs some wins before facing bute,he can't afford to loose again after he lost to ward.
     
  12. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    I always knew that they were a bit thick but I never realised how brick thick Quebecers actually are.
     
  13. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Explain your **** dickhead.
     
  14. SimonTemplar

    SimonTemplar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As it seems likely that Kessler will have the WBO belt, and Froch picked up a loss to Kessler, should Froch win the Super Six isn't it obvious that his preferred next fight would be Kessler rather than Bute? Both Kessler and Froch have made it clear that they will fight anywhere - so a fight would be easier to make than one with Bute - they have unfinished business and the winner would hold three of the four major belts. It's the obvious fight for both of them.

    Froch has not ruled out fighting Bute at any time in the future, but it is true to say that both Kessler and Froch have a stronger boxing cv than Bute, that would be a bigger fight at this point: Kessler and Froch are both far better known to mainstream fans because they have both fought in more countries than Bute and have had far higher-profile opponents with more achievements under their belts, plus they have history with the points win to Kessler which some dispute (I don't, but think Froch takes a rematch). So given all of that, I just don't think that Froch has said anything controversial. Most people in Froch's position would not fight Bute next, they would (assuming that Froch beats Ward, big if obviously) be more inclined to look elsewhere.
     
  15. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All your posts are about Bute,and most are absolutely hilarious,but i must admit you've outdone yourself with that one statement. :patsch