Bute's counter uppercut is a thing of beauty!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Seven Chance, Oct 15, 2010.


  1. MJK

    MJK Well-Known Member Full Member

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    your so right. there will be a winner, but no schooling.
     
  2. pasarica

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    Brinkley looked very slick, better than Zuniga for example and Bute was a little surprised of that. It was very clear that Bute felt inconfortable because his opponent was running all fight and was so short that Bute almost needed to lay down on the knees very much to connect with his opponent.
    Bute likes to control the game from the middle of the ring but also to let the challenger to attack him and counterpunch. With a real opposition the fight would have looked much better.
    I also think that Bute tryed toooo much his uppercut to the body and chin, we all know that this is his favorite weapon but if you don't variate the shots to surprise the other fighter it wont work so well with an elite guy.
    I said it before the fight that i hope Bute to be 100% connected to the fight and he wasn't, he was loughing too much like that fight was just some kind of a joke. I'm a little disappointed about this attitude, he must remain serious and focused otherwise he will get in trouble.
     
  3. john doe

    john doe Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yeah i was there, see from nice and close....i love bute, but he had an attitude of being full of himself, maybe its over confidence....but when you think your too good thats when you make mistakes.

    and yeah i found he was trying too much to throw the uppercut, almost like he wanted to please the fans with another uppercut ko...each time brinkley went down from an uppercut, bute would go look around at the crowd and smile....he loves the recognition he gets from his home crowd. i do think he took this fight lightly, but i also think he wouldnt do the same against a better fighter.

    i think bute is unbeatable in montreal....if ward wants any chance he would have to fight somewhere else.

    id like to see bute take a fight or 2 in the states, maybe atlantic city.....or even better MSG NY.....but i dont think its likely to happen....
     
  4. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ive only seen bute land the uppercut on stationery targets , against a mover Im not so sure. Also I still feel he has a loss on his account against a pretty average fighter.
     
  5. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    What makes you say Bute is on another level than Mikkel Kessler, who by the way didn't need rematches and controversy to beat B and C-level fighters like Andrade.
     
  6. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'll say it again for those with limited reading comprehension: I'm a fan of Bute. I would be rooting for him against Ward. But I think Ward's speed, ring intelligence, adaptability, movement..Everything, would frustrate Bute to no end. Ward would not be there for the uppercut. He'd be hitting and moving away continuously. He's a vastly superior boxer (not fighter: Boxer) to anyone Bute has fought. And to argue that because Bute KO'd Miranda and Ward decisioned him that Bute is better is asinine. When Miranda actually tried to box Bute in rounds 1 and 2 he was doing well and Bute did not look stellar. It was only when Miranda reverted to brawling that he got caught. My point was that if a boxer as limited as Miranda could cause problems for Bute in the early going, a boxer as talented as Ward would cause him enormous problems. Unfortunately, this fight, if it ever happens, won't happen for quite some time.
     
  7. nip102

    nip102 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    anyone got a video to the ko still think jmm has the best uppercut in the game
     
  8. aliviu_emilian

    aliviu_emilian Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tonight will not be the same Bute as in an Abraham fight, pal.It`s obviously wasn`t the same motivation as usually and very much prudence cause he has everything to lose.
     
  9. aliviu_emilian

    aliviu_emilian Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don`t say Bute as a different level than Kessler but I say what almost all see:Bute would beat Kessler from now on.

    Yes, Kessler didn`t need a rematch to beat Andrade clearely wich in my opinion is not even a B fghter but is not top five and you can call him so if that is the definition of A fighters for you (cause he`s and will be top ten for a long time; so we can`t speak not by far by C level) but he didn`t had health problems disregarding doctor`s advice to postpone the fight like Bute did.You saw the real Bute in the rematch.Kessler himself would`t beat Andrade in 4th not even in 3 matches.
     
  10. MrMagic

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    Bute has never fought anyone near Kesslers or Froch's level, so cut the bull**** out that is "everyone sees Bute would beat Kessler from now on".

    In all likelyhood, Bute would be rag-dolled by the vast majority of fighters included in the S6.
     
  11. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :verysad Here we go again..... and then you have the nerve to say you like Bute...yeahhhhh riiiight !

    Ward, Dirrell, Abraham & Froch certainly could beat Bute just as the opposite is true, but to say he'd be rag-dolled..:patsch "Operation let's discredit Bute & pretend we like him when confronted about it"
     
  12. MrMagic

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    Bute seems like a nice chap, but he's ridiculously hyped. Andrade had him swirling around like bambi on ice, imagine that being Froch, Kessler or Arthur.. all with more power and ferocity?
     
  13. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You've been following what's been said about Bute and you should know very well now that his red blood cell count was scarily low prior to fighting Andrade in the first match. Bute said **** it, I'm still getting in the ring, I don't want to re-schedule a fight that over 14 000 people are attending.

    He paid the price as you saw in the 12th cause he had no more energy as a result. He had to stay in the middle of the ring and trade because of that. You must have also witnessed that no particular punch hurt him or stunned him. He was just getting more and more tired as the round progressed !! Nevertheless, the man dominated the first 11 rounds.

    Yes he is a nice chap and no he's not too hyped. The vast majority that talk about him on this board are reasonable people saying he's good but he's certainly not unbeatable at 168lbs...

    It's obvious for people that have eyes wide open to see that you try to hide the fact you have something against him. Are you pissed that Bute gets more attention than Kessler ? What is it ? You can't always post stuff that brings down a man and then try to cover it or justify it with no substance...
     
  14. PH|LLA

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    Bute is good. He'll beat Froch, Abraham, Dirrell. I don't know if he'll beat Kessler if Kessler somehow is back at his best, but he'll beat the version of Kessler who beat Froch. I don't think he'll beat Ward.

    He needs to work on a few things. Stop giving away his height. Read punches better. Develop a threatening right hook.
     
  15. Robney

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    I'm with you, but I actually switch Dirrell (although I hate his guts) and Ward around. Purely because of style.
    I think Dirrell beats him on a tight decision, purely by doing his running and potshotting thing and Ward loses because I see him walk right into this thread's featured counter uppercut. Beïng it vs Kessler style head first bull style or beïng it Green style push and hold against the ropes style. Both are excellent counter uppercut possibilities.
    I'm certainly not saying it will be an easy fight for Bute (far from that) but I guess the punch will come eventually.