Bute's ranked No. 2 in top 10 SMW Ring Magazine .....

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  1. SweetHome_Bama

    SweetHome_Bama Loyal Member banned

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    Let me get this straight. You are now trying to argue that Bute has fought fighters the caliber of Ward, Dirrell, Froch, Taylor (even the shot to **** one AA fought that still give Froch 11.5 rounds of all he could handle) because I included Stieglitz on AA's resume?

    :rofl:rofl:rofl

    turbotime that powder has your mind gone completely.

    Kessler is done at SMW he said he is LHW now and until he gets a SMW fight you can't rank him there.

    Bika may have made ugly fights, but he was outclassed by every notable person he has fought.

    Dirrell was hit by one of the hardest punchers in boxing while on the ground and not prepared. Pathetic that you would call what happended afterwards acting.

    Oosthuzien can have any trinket he would like, he isn't top 10 and any top 10 or top 15 fighter he faces will hurt him and take him out.

    A > B, B>C, so A > C logic at work here. :lol:

    You are playing yourself kid.
    :rofl:rofl

    I cleared up this point earlier in my post.
     
  2. Jaber

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    wrong homie,Stieglitz was a paper champ.A Bikka,Magee or a Berrio win is better on any resumee than Stieglitz.He lost to Berrio,Andrade and now AA.what that tells you?it tells you he is a shitty class C fighter,he allways have been,with the exception of a decent win with Balzsay he never beaten anyone.so it is not the case of A,B and C here.Stieglitz is a fraud and AA has a **** resume.deal with it.
     
  3. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    The rematch with Froch will decide if Bute belongs among the top smw or he's just a solid gatekeeper !

    Don't forget that he beat Bika,Andrade,Johnson and Berrio ; all ranked in top 10 smw at that time, actually Bika still is ! :yep:deal
     
  4. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    What powder, you're the one giving Abe credit for beating Stieglitz, who is a nobody, yet won't give Bute credit for beating the same level of nobody.

    Andrade/Berrio> Stieglitz :hi:
     
  5. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    :lol: u got him ! :yep
     
  6. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    :rofl :lol: :rofl So how did Berrio knock Stieglitz TFO then? Bama you well and truly DKSAB.
     
  7. bailey

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    The Rings SMW ratings went very strange in my opinion when the S6 was on. I think they were edging for a Ring champ. I mean Kessler beats Froch, then in Frochs next fight he fights Abraham coming off a loss and they just put him straight above Kessler who he had beaten. Seemed odd.
    As I recall, Bute was #1 after Ward beat Kessler and after Ward beat Bika, a fighter Bute had beaten years previously, Ward went above Bute.
    The ratings and belt dont mean a great deal to me as the ratings are opinion based and not result based.
    Looking at those ratings it just shows how weak the SMW division is at this time. Compare now to so many of the monthly ratings back in 2005 and below and today looks very weak
     
  8. weegriffin

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    Wasn't Kessler number 1 before the super 6? So a win over Kessler should put Ward at the top spot anyway.

    The Froch above Kessler I agree with you but I think it was more to do with Kessler inactivity at that stage.
     
  9. Jaber

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    so how come Andre Dirrell who was never in top 10 before super6 is in top 5 now when he disgrace himsel in super6 and he only fought a tomato can in the last 2 and a half years?is he active in gym or something?there is something fishy about those rankings
     
  10. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    its all about hyping certain fighters , maybe to make certain fights happen , imo
     
  11. bailey

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    Kessler was #1 at the time. But Ward didnt go in at 1, he went in at 2. I guess just one win over Kessler wasnt overall better than Berrio, Andrade then #3 SMW and #5 SMW as well as some other title fights combined.
    Still however you argue that, how did Froch just go above Kessler who he lost to one fight later beating a fighter coming off a loss? Somehow Froch then went above Bute also. I think that was when he beat Johnson who was a SMW journeyman. It was all odd.
    It looked to me like they were trying to get the ratings to have Froch and Ward as #1 and #2 to get a Ring champ
     
  12. Dece Bal

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    It wasn't odd. It was a pure set-up to crown the Ring Champ in the Final of the S6.
     
  13. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    ESB seems very slow on the computer tonight, and you got in there before my edit. Look at the last bit I put in.
     
  14. bailey

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    Good point.
    Dirrell hasnt beaten anyone of note other than a blown up MW who couldnt compete and wanted to drop back to MW at the time, and Dirrell did that when out cold by DQ. At the time Abraham had done nothing at SMW.
    Arguably Dirrells biggest win was debateable between Oganov/Abraham.
    Yet somehow hes being classed as a top SMW for not beating anyone of note
     
  15. Dece Bal

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    Dirrell is ranked high based on his rep and on his perceived talent.

    Funny thing is he's probably not richer than anyone who's ever been ranked as high as him in the division, cause you don't get paid for a high ranking if you don't fight anyone.