Buuum squaaad!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by baconmaker, Aug 13, 2015.


  1. baconmaker

    baconmaker Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Molina and now Duauhaupus. Are these the worst two title defences in history? Wilder is bum. He got rocked by Dustin Nichols jab and had to bring his friend Malik Scott to take a dive. Then he beat drugged dehydrated sick Stiverne. Wilders title should be ripped.
     
  2. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rematch with Dustin Nichols could still happen in the near future
     
  3. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Team Wilder clearly don't like his chances against someone like Jennings or Takam so they don't wanna risk the payday so they just wanna milk the belt. Duhaupas isn't really that bad for a cherry-pick, he just beat Charr after all.
     
  4. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Are the rules still that you have 365 days to face your mandatory contender?
     
  5. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    Not 365 days, but at LEAST once per year.

    A look back at the last recent WBC HW champs,

    Maskaev - Got one voluntary, then had to face Peter (WBC rejected allowing Peter step aside money so Oleg could fight Vitali)
    Peter - Had to face mandatory challenger Vitali in 1st defense.
    V. Klitschko - Had to face mandatory J.C Gomez in 1st defense. (WBC rejected a voluntary defense)
    Stiverne - Had to face mandatory Wilder in 1st defense.

    Why is Wilder getting a pass to make multiple voluntaries against fighters with no business contending for the title???
     
  6. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Allright, from the WBC rulebook:

    Voluntary Defenses. In order to fulfill their requirement to defend the title regularly in a
    timely manner, champions shall propose voluntary defenses against Qualified Challengers
    as defined above. No bout shall qualify as a voluntary defense other than as permitted by
    the WBC in accordance with these Rules and Regulations. Unification bouts with
    champions of other organizations recognized by the WBC must be specifically requested
    and may be approved, denied, or made subject to special conditions by the WBC in its sole
    discretion.

    3.5 Mandatory Defense Obligations. All WBC champions shall make at least one (1)
    mandatory defense per year, unless an exception is granted by the WBC in its sole
    discretion. A champion may be required to make more than one mandatory defense per
    year, if the WBC has designated more than one mandatory challenger for any reason. No
    bout shall be considered a mandatory defense unless specifically approved by the WBC and
    made exclusively against an official mandatory challenger designated by the WBC. A
    challenger who wins the title shall automatically inherit the mandatory defense obligations
    of the champion he defeated, unless the WBC in its sole discretion otherwise directs.
    3.6 Timing and Extensions of Mandatory Defense Obligations. The time periods for
    mandatory defenses stated in these Rules may be altered by the WBC in its sole discretion
    under special circumstances, including if a champion has defended the title in a voluntary
    defense against a contender the WBC may have deemed a mandatory challenger. No
    mandatory bout may be contested until such time as is required for a mandatory defense
    under these Rules and Regulations, including any extensions that may be granted by the
    WBC in its sole discretion.
     
  7. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    So in other words, the rules are meaningless because the WBC can grant an "exception" on a whim if the right amount of money reaches them
     
  8. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    you got it chief!
     
  9. Matt in a hat

    Matt in a hat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The PBC fam wants Wilder to sharpen up b4 Povetkin, not get beat.
    Even Duhaupas is a risk, but they want to minimize that risk, and make some more money b4 the Povetkin, or Klitschko fight.
     
  10. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    This still hasn't been finalized yet, only one major source says it's happening, and Wilder has flip flopped on several different opponents already. Like I said, I believe Wilder and his team will drag these negotiations on for as long as possible, and when they do eventually select an opponent it will be the worst, and most ill prepared of the bunch.
     
  11. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    Leave Deontay Wilder alone! The champ can fight whoever the hell he wants! And there's nothing the key board warriors can do about it!
     
  12. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Fans such as yourself are a major reason why very little is done about the corruption that plagues boxing across the board.
     
  13. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Ali fought worse boxers.

    Brian London and Karl Mildenberger within a month of each other in 1966.

    Jean-Pierre Coopman ("The Lion of Flanders") and Richard Dunn within 3
    months (separated by Jimmy Young to whom he actually lost but never mind).

    Difference between Ali and Wilder is that Ali also fought the Fraziers, Quarry's, Chuvalo's, Foreman's, Norton's of the word between the bums.
     
  14. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Ali was a lot more active than wilder.
     
  15. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Trust me, putting "Wilder" and "Ali" in the same sentence pains me. Ali had to fight a lot more because purses were a lot less in those days. Making $500,000 or $1,000,000 for a fight was a lot of money. Plus Ali had a huge entourage and had to keep boxing to feed all those mouths.