By May there will be only 1 American in top 10 P4P

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by punchingdove, Feb 26, 2011.


  1. time

    time Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah thats why hes called the american flash, comes to the ring covered in the stars and stripes and refers to himself as an american

    The guy is a philipino, if you cant see that you got a problem

    Hes making a good living for himself in the states but is OBVIOUSLY a proud pinoy DUH
     
  2. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was born in the phillipines what the hell is this debate about??

    Sounds like Americans are starting to get worried of their standing in the p4p list. They are starting to make drafts. haha
     
  3. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  4. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    You are arguing semantics. Nationality can either refer to citizenship or ethnicity. In the US, nationality is determined by citizenship. In some parts of the world, nationality is determined by ethnicity.

    What is clear is that Donaire is American and Fiilipino by citizenship, but his ethnicity is just Filipino as his parents are both Filipinos. Does that make him an American national? Yes and no, depending on how you define nationality.
     
  5. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Exactly and Berto was born in Florida, but parents from Haiti.
     
  6. demigawd

    demigawd Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So....does that make Margarito american and not mexican?
     
  7. cippi

    cippi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    its possible but who cares.
     
  8. omiyourhomie

    omiyourhomie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :patsch

    in order to be eligible for US Citizenship....YES....the number of years you live in the United States DOES in fact play into whether or not you're eligible:

    "If you are at least 18 years old and have been a Permanent Resident for the past 5 years without leaving the United States for trips of 6 months or longer.

    If you are at least 18 years old and are currently married to and living with a U.S. citizen; and have been married to and living with that same U.S. citizen for the past 3 years without leaving the United States for trips of 6 months or longer, and your spouse has been a U.S. citizen for the past 3 years."

    If it says "US" on his passport, then he's American. if he has dual-citizenship, from the US and Philipines....then he's filipino-AMERICAN...but still american. end of debate.

    this shouldn't be too hard to understand... :huh
     
  9. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    So affliate Margarito as American and not Mexican then?
     
  10. pound

    pound Coqui Radar Full Member

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    Any 1st generation american will represent America AND his ethicity. Just like Oscar De La Hoya, Vargas, and the list goes on and on and on and on.

    If your 1 generation removed from your ethicity you still cling on to your roots. You 10th generation american's or whatever the hell you are need to understand this. My parents born in Puerto Rico, I was born in the USA. If I represented in any sport I'd represent both. If I was force to represent only 1 country, I'd choose to represent Puerto Rico.

    its as simple as that. Blood is thicker than water. What runs in my bloods separates me quite a bit from typical American lifestyle, regardless of me living in this society or not.

    Get that through your thick brains. Donaire represents the Filipines. Thats why there will be MILLIONS of Filipinos behind his back when he keeps on boxing. If he becomes a star, his numbers are due to his Filipino fan base and not much else.
     
  11. omiyourhomie

    omiyourhomie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You'd have to look at what his passport says, but he grew up in Tijuana and has lived there most of his life.

    now as far as culture is concerned....can he even speak english? barely.

    can donaire speak english? yes.....and from what i keep reading, more better than he can speak tagalog.

    Donaire is much more american than margarito
     
  12. omiyourhomie

    omiyourhomie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The US does not "ignore" boxing...it happens to be the country where most boxers want to fight in, because that's where the big $$ is. Now...does the US televise golf, football, and baseball a lot more than boxing? yes...but it does not ignore boxing
     
  13. omiyourhomie

    omiyourhomie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :deal:deal:deal
     
  14. time

    time Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well somebody better tell donaire thats hes an american then :hey

    Now were getting into the argument, well this guy is "more" american than that guy as he has lived here longer or speaks the right way, at the end of the day its clear as day which country nonito represents, thats the philippines

    The dude doesnt even carry the american flag into the ring with him!! Maybe he should be forced to do that if he lives there and pays taxes, hhhhmmm

    Maybe the klits are germans, sergio martinez is actually spanish.......hell maybe even the klits are american LOL
     
  15. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    I guess "Irish" Mickey Ward wasnt american.

    The Latin Snake must not be american either.:patsch