By May there will be only 1 American in top 10 P4P

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  1. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Citizenship laws differ by country. Half the nations in the world say you take the citizenship of your birthplace (USA). The other nations state you take the citizenship of your parents (Philippines).

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    Nonito Donaire Jr.- born in the Philippines to Filipino parents. Because his parents were Filipino citizens when Nonito was born, Nonito is a Filipino citizen. He has since moved to the USA and became a naturalized American citizen. But by Filipino laws, Nonito can still claim Filipino citizenship.


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    Tim Tebow- Born in Mindanao, Philippines (like Pacquiao) to American missionary parents. Because Tim's parents were not Filipino citizens at the time of his birth, Tim is not a Filipino citizen according to Philippine laws. When Tim was brought to the United States, he was considered a Filipino citizen and most likely had to become a naturalized citizen.


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    Jimmy Alapag- pro basketball player. Born in Los Angeles, California to Filipino citizen parents. By U.S. laws, Jimmy is an American citizen because he was born in the United States. By Philippine laws, he is also a Filipino citizen because he was born to Filipino citizen parents.
     
  2. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yea, dont see why you cant have dual nationality.

    What if you are actually half? Say your mum is australian, born in australia, dad is english, born in england, you were born in australia for first 10 years but lived in england for 15 years. Does that make you australian, or English? I say both if you want to be.

    Hamed rep England and Yemen all the time.
     
  3. daallo

    daallo Member Full Member

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    Well, Sergio Mora entered to the ring h the Mexican Nationl Anthm against Mosley...
     
  4. oli

    oli Boxing Junkie banned

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    Get ****ed! Donaire is filipino!! Dont try ****ing claiming him now ****y
     
  5. daallo

    daallo Member Full Member

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    THIS is what counts. In the end your nationality is the plce you are proud to be from and he one you represent. Unfortunately, boxing is not clear on that aspect since it is not mandatory to play national anthems, for example, whereas in other sports they must represent one nations (such a at the Olympics).

    Nonito is Filipino all the way, regardless of also having an American citizenship or what passport he uses.

    ODLH is US American since he repsented USA at the Olympics and wore that flag. It's absurd to call him Mexican.

    Margarito is Mexican, regardlñess of being born in the US because he has always worn the Mexican falg (or have you seen him with the US American?)

    Abner Mares represented México at the Oympics and hasalwaysused the Mexican flag so he's clearly Mexican.

    Raúl Márquez was born in México but represented the US in international competitions and has played the American anthem (for ecxample when he fought in Germany)...That makes him US American.

    Juan Día was born in Houston and attempted to represent México at the Olympics (but he didn't) and he's come up with both flags, but when asked he said he would support US in the Football World Cup "because it's our team" so he is Texan, not Mexican.

    Unfortunately then you have cases that are not clear, such as Steven Luévano, who always entered with the Mexican flag and not the US one or Brandon Ríos, who comes with both.
     
  6. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  7. time

    time Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Even if you count donaire as a filipino, which most people will, america still has lots of fighters who could make it on to p4p lists, at the end of the day its great to see lots of different nationalities competing, thats what makes boxing even more interesting imo

    The really big fights often invloved different countries fighters and thats one of the reasons fans get so involved
     
  8. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    well lets just count Donaire for both countries

    so the Philipines and the USA both have a P4P....come on guys we learned this in pre-K......SHARE!
     
  9. 1punch1nder

    1punch1nder **Bam Bam** Full Member

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    for sure it wouldn't if you are thinking out of your ass.
     
  10. mancat

    mancat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd says he's African. Therefore he represents Africa. That's right, the whole damn continent!
     
  11. mancat

    mancat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So, he just has American citizenship to take advantage of this country? He uses the wealth generated here to build up the philipines? And you condone that?
     
  12. mancat

    mancat Boxing Addict Full Member

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