By Modern Standards, George Foreman was a Caveman

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  1. True_Hero

    True_Hero Guest



    You're in denial son.

    Put a WW from today, say Floyd or Pacquiao or even one of the lower ranked WW's like Khan and they'd beat any WW from the past.

    They just couldn't cope. Look at Khan, for all his flaws he's one of the fastest boxers of all time. Which of the chubby, poor conditioned, clumsy oafs of the past could cope with his hand speed?

    None of them. And I say that as a guy who doesn't like Khan.

    Take your rose-tinted glasses off son.
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Right, and George Foreman couldn't crack that?

    Ha!


    I said it was the weakest it's been in the last 40 years.

    But I meant in terms of ability.

    There's some really exciting match ups to be made today.

    It's going to be interesting to see what happens in the next few years.


    Now let's go back in time, by 30 years.

    Here are the best HW's of the 80's.


    Tim Witherspoon
    Frank Bruno
    Pinkon Thomas
    Mike Tyson
    Michael Spinks
    Gerry Co*ney
    Carl Williams
    Michael Dokes
    Larry Holmes
    Trevor Berbick
    Tony Tucker
    Greg Page
    James Douglas
    John Tate
    Mike Weaver


    I've only given you 15 names.

    Are you going to tell me that today's guys are superior?
     
  3. True_Hero

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    Yep, todays guys are superior.

    Take your rose-tinted glasses off. Todays guys are faster, stronger, punch harder, have better stamina, better conditioning, better training, better nutrition, better intellect and are more durable than boxers of past generations.

    Fact.
     
  4. madpuppy

    madpuppy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, how could those 90s bums expect to take on such great conditioned heavyweight as Ruiz Jr, Arreola, Chagaev etc.
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    What about Ray Leonard, John Mugabi, Herol Graham, Thomas Hearns, Sumbu Kalambay and Mike McCallum?


    How about the 90's MW's of 20 years ago?

    Roy Jones
    Mike McCallum
    James Toney
    Michael Nunn
    Reggie Johnson
    Gerald McClellan
    Julian Jackson

    Etc?
     
  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is surely a wind up?

    Please tell me you're just having a laugh.

    I don't know because we haven't debated before.


    SRR
    SRL
    Duran
    Hearns
    Benitez

    Etc?


    :lol:
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You've never seen all those guys fight who I've listed.

    :patsch
     
  8. Barry Smith

    Barry Smith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So guys like Arreola, Ustinov, Ruiz Jr, Brown, Chagaev etc are better conditioned than someone like Foreman or Ali:lol:

    You do realise that these heavyweight only weight as much as they do because they are fat.

    You are seriously saying that guys like this

    http://photos.famouswiki.com/c/chris-arreola-72191/gallery/chris-arre-590331.jpg

    http://www.sportenote.com/img_larg.aspx?img=/public/foto_pugili/32030/andy ruiz.bmp&s=270

    Are in better shape, have better conditioning and better nutrition than guys like this

    http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/102/71db7cb5c53d41bbb5725821f6aea6aa/l.jpg

    http://www.sickchirpse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Muhammad-Ali.jpg

    :rofl:rofl:rofl

    Oh how heavyweights have evolved into super human specimens that past fighters could only dream about being:lol:
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You must be just having a laugh, because no knowledgeable boxing fan could be this stupid.
     
  10. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    He has to be trolling.

    Surely?

    Can someone clarify, who knows him?
     
  11. True_Hero

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    I don't need too.

    Athletes get better with every generation. It's true for every sport including boxing.

    I've never seen Lucien Michard cycle but I still know he'd get schooled by cyclists today. Because athletes get better with each generation.

    Now, repeat that back to me, boy. I want to make sure you understand.
     
  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    And as everyone knows, pedalling a bike, is exactly the same as mastering the scientific art of boxing.


    So today's HW's are superior than the HW's of the 80's, even though you've not actually seen them fight?


    You don't know how much I'm hoping that you're just having a joke.


    :lol:
     
  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I need a break.

    This simpleton has given me a headache.
     
  14. madpuppy

    madpuppy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Man forget it, some people just enjoy being idiots on internet forums
     
  15. True_Hero

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    Have I used too many big words for you, champ?

    It's not difficult to understand. Athletes get better with every generation.


    Maybe if you write it out 30 times the message will sink in, you'll have a lightbulb moment and finally you will understand.