BS! Let's not pretend that every HW today is an absolute giant compared to the HW's from 30 years ago. Go and look at the skills of some of the 80's HW's. Yet the HW's today don't employ those skills, just because they're up against bigger guys, and are scared of the incoming? I don't think so. What about the other weight classes? Don't tell me that in fighting and body punching isn't needed as much as it once was.
I think his skills were fine for his style same as Marciano. Not everyone needs to be slick like Ray Robinson. Klitschko or Lewis might beat him because they are naturally bigger, but he still has a puncher's chance. And there aren't many other heavyweights around who would beat George Foreman. I'd still put him in the top ten all time head to head. Even the old George Foreman only needed one sledgehammer punch to ice Michael Moorer.
Body punching is far less relevant at HW's. It's too big a risk. There's a reason the heavyweights produce more knockouts than ANY division. These guys hit harder, hurt you more, KO you more frequently. When you have that power, you are less likely to go to the body. When your OPPONENT has that power, you are even more less likely to go to the body. Body shots absolutely have a place in the HW division, but to expect guys to throw body shots like people did in the 70's when everyone was an average 30 lbs lighter is absurd.
It's not a big risk if you're a very good-great fighter, with very good- great attributes. And if you've got great power yourself, a body shot is even better than a head shot. It's easier for your opponent to cover his head, than it is to cover his body. Yes, you can get countered, but you can throwing just about any shot. But it can turn a fight instantly. Look at a guy like Wlad. He doesn't have to worry about leaving himself open with most of the guys he faces. Where's the in fighting? Where's the double hooks and uppercuts? Again, I'm not looking just at the HW's. I watch a lot of boxing, across all divisions, and it doesn't seem as common to me.
Lol, so in the history of boxing things have just now changed because of big lumbering heavyweights with no defense or ability to apply an aggressive body attack? BRILLIANT.....just BRILLIANT!!! :rofl
Heavyweights produce more knockouts than any division? I'd like to see a source for this please. If the average difference in weight is relatively the the same than your point is moot. More so, if your theory is correct than larger fighters should be able to take a better punch which renders your point even more moot. If not than you must entertain the point that smaller heavyweight knockout artist could compete today. Your whe assumption has more holes in it than a sieve. The fact remains that body punching breaks down fighter and creates openings. If im wrong the kindly show me a single noteworthy trainer who says otherwise.
Foreman KO's Lewis and Wlad. At some point both will get hit, and when that happens that's it. Foreman hits too hard. Maybe Wlad could hug and dance away with his athleticism, but I doubt it. Vitali beats Foreman.
young foreman never bothered getting in shape to go the distance. old foreman was way too slow to even hit those guys.
You're only talking Wlad so stop saying 'Heavyweights'. Wlad can't/won't throw body shots because he hadn't the skills and is too much of a sissy. Banging out guys with 1-2 headshots over and over because less about the sport of boxing and its why its now at an all time low. Show me all these huge massive punchers Wlad is facing that he has to abandon body attack. Where? Who? Fury is a great body puncher. And Stiverne, Chisora, Tackam , Povektin , Thompson , Jennings all work the body. If Wlad fights Jennings next, you most certainly see Jennings go downstairs. Do you ever make a post that isn't a fabrication of the truth?
Not only the klitschko. Most of last years top heavyweights would have brutalized the past glories. George Foreman was the best fighter of his generation, but he had only the size and the strenght going for him. He had very little skills, he telegraphed his punches, he punched wide and sloppy, totally open, he moved slowly around the ring, and had bad stamina. All of this, while being only 6'3. Today he would be ridiculed for his size and his shape.
Exactly. But the majority of people here, crawling in a BOXING forum, can't understand **** about boxing. Too complex to grasp. And obviously, they have never laced gloves in their lives.
Because somehow every professional heavyweight for the past 25 years, with millions of dollars on the line, has yet to realize all he's been missing to easily capture the crown was defense and a body attack. That's as brilliant an insight as you'd find in a Rocky fight script. I can't wait for next week's therapy session for people to ***** about the heavyweight division. Maybe we can have a guest speaker like Jack Lowe lament how heavyweights today are worthless because they neglect the double jab, or Buddy McGirt could ***** about how they just can't sip water like they did 30 years ago.