By Modern Standards, George Foreman was a Caveman

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  1. The General

    The General Boxing Addict Full Member

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    requires strategy though:good

    exactly i destroyed you in that argyment so i just moved on to a new one
     
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  2. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nope, more like your talking ****, getting owned and then changing subject.

    And for the third time of asking, please explain Valuev if Foreman is a caveman.
     
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  3. MVC!

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    If I was you, I'd shut the hell up you damn bet runner.

    McGrain (Matt) knows more about boxing than you ever will, and it's not close, at all. :lol:
     
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  4. HerolGee

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    how do players of today KNOW about the moves of those players from times when moves were not recorded, or when records are incomplete?
     
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  5. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    That same fact probably applies to a minimum of 99.9% of active forum posters, myself included.

    :smoke
     
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  6. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    MVC!, Dec 19, 2014
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  7. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Games between elite players have been recorded for the last 200 years. It's not hard to record an entire game of chess notation.

    You can put their moves into a super computer which can determine how good the moves were. It has shown, quite clearly, that chess, LIKE EVERYTHING, evolves at a steady rate. The top players from this era **** on the top players from 60's-90's. It's night and day.

    Boxing is no different.
     
    Slyk, Dec 19, 2014
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  8. madpuppy

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    The evolution of boxing means that Tyson Fury's special uppercut himself in the face punch would be too much for Foreman too handle.
     
    madpuppy, Dec 19, 2014
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  9. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury isn't even a top 5 HW of the modern era.

    He has proven nothing.

    Throw Wladimir in with guys from the 60's 70's and he goes through 3 of them a night EASILY.
     
    Slyk, Dec 19, 2014
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  10. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Foreman would have a decent chance vs Lewis or either Klitschko although they are closer to 50-50 IMO. The one fighter I can see being a nightmare for Foreman is one I haven't seen mentioned yet; prime Chris Byrd. Styles make fights and I could see Chris making Foreman look like a cowboy trying to herd cats.
     
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  11. madpuppy

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    This is a ridiculous statement, I don't know how you can be so certain. He has lost to much inferior fighters than Ali, Foreman or Frazier. He has improved since, but there is no evidence to back up your statement whatsoever.
     
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  12. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Please tell me that Eubank Jr and Saunders are better fighters than Minter and Finnegan. I need a laugh.
     
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  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Here we go again.

    Boxing doesn't evolve in the same way.

    There's fighters from the last 30 years or more, that would easily beat the best fighters of today.

    Why do we get this on here every month or so?

    If boxing kept evolving, then today's guys would be the best fighters of all time, across all weight classes.

    Is that what you're claiming?

    Don't be silly.

    Today's MW's are no better than the MW's of 20-30 years ago.

    As crude as he was, Foreman would crush most HW's of today.
     
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  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Of course it's evolved since the M.O.Q. but it doesn't evolve in the same way that other sports have.

    I think it has regressed in certain areas.

    In fighting, double hooks, body shots and uppercuts etc.

    They don't seem as common today.
     
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