By Modern Standards, George Foreman was a Caveman

Just imagine wlad contering fraziers hook with his own that he landed on pulev

 

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I think Joe would have given him something to think about, with his relentless pressure.

 

Wlad's a monster today and you know it. But Sanders did knock his lights out that night
Talk about someone being exposed how about Foreman's disaster against ALI- and I noticed there was never a rematch attempt by caveman King George

 

Prime George Foreman beats every other lineal heavyweight champ not named Ali.

 

Fair enough.

 

sure but he would get brutaly ko'd imagine ali jabs right hands hooks that he ate to get closer well i don't see joe being vertikal after 3 rounds!

 

What?

Foreman was ****.

He was a fat, slow, plodding, one-dimensional fighter with little stamina. It's only dumb Americans looking through their rose-tinted glasses who refuse to realise that the 70s and 80s were a very weak era for boxing and that none of the "stars" would be successful today.

Foreman was considered a big heavyweight of his day. He was 6'3, he'd be considered below average height in todays era which takes away what was arguably his biggest advantage over his smaller opponents.

Anyway who argues otherwise obviously doesn't understand boxing. If Foreman doesn't have the height, weight and strength advantage that he had over his smaller opponents in his prime, what exactly does he have?

He isn't a great boxer, he was one dimensional, he was slow, he was plodding, he was clumsy, he had no heart. He wouldn't be top 20 today.

 

You don't think Ray Leonard would do well in this day and age? Arguello or Napoles?

Heavyweights certainly seem to have gotten bigger. But with few exceptions the heavies of today don't seem that exceptional.

For what it's worth. Using the Ring with their top ten right now and boxrec for their height:

Povetkin - 6'2"
Stiverne - 6'2"
Pulev - 6'4"
Jennings - 6'3"
Glazkov - 6'3"
Perez - 6'1"
Arreola - 6'4"
Chagaev - 6'1"

So that's 8 out of 10 that are in or around George Foreman's height of 6'3". Some shorter, some taller. I don't think George would look like a midget compared to those listed above.

Not on the list is Fury and Wilder who are taller than the rest but it's only two of them and that makes them outliers in the top ten. Of course Wlad who as champion isn't included in the top ten 'contenders' rankings.

 

I agree, mate. I don't buy this "evolution" bull****, either. It would mean the likes of Hagler, Duran, Pryor, Leonard, Palomino etc, couldn't be champions, now. Yet someone like Khan can be? Come on!

Also, how far does this theory go? Are fighters from 10 years ago already obsolete? I think Lewis would wipe the floor with Klitchsko, for instance, but this can't be true because Lewis isn't a current fighter with super-dooper training methods and nutrition! Sorry, I think it's a crock.

Some modern fighters are excellent, some are good, some are awful. There hasn't been a quality evolution at all; it is a myth.

 

I can't envisage Joe being beaten in three rounds, but I respect your opinion.