By not agreeing to the test, Pac deserves all the suspicion laid upon him. And...

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  1. ApatheticLeader

    ApatheticLeader is bringing ***y back. Full Member

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    If that's the case, why the HELL are so many people criticising PBF for what they deem to be a "***** move".

    Granted, when PBF (and others) initially made the suggestion it ws probably more out of hope than expectation and true belief. The comments were probably mainly to unsettle Pac, which is a bit pathetic. Yet unexpectedly, there seems to be something in it, and people are still claiming that PBF just wants to avoid Pac. If there even a suggestion that there's any truth to the allegations, then PBF is more than entitled to opt out of the fight.

    People are also bitching because this is the first time that PBF has asked for the kind of rigorous drug testing to be implemented for an opponent. Well it's something that should have been done FAR before now on all fighters and therefore no-one should have a problem with it if both fighters are taking the same series of tests. If this furore is going to end up with stricter drug testing from here on in, good. There is NO room for drug cheats in boxing, no matter how popular they are.

    Oh yes, and anyone mentioning Mosley getting away with it is just basically saying that Pac should be allowed to do the same, which is just plaing wrong. I don't know too much about Mosley's Balco scandal, I've paid even less attention to that than the current Pac case.
     
  2. Boxed Ears

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    "Freddie Roach put it best..."This is all coming from Floyd Mayweather Sr., a disgruntled trainer who couldn't prepare his fighter (Hatton) to last past the second round against Manny. Just because he's a convicted drug dealer doesn't make him a drug expert. If they're looking to level the playing field they should have demanded that Manny fight with his left hand tied behind his back." ''
     
  3. ApatheticLeader

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    If Manny is not guilty, he should just take whatever testing those responsible for this type of thing decide to implement, and when they decide to do it. It shouldn't be any kind of big deal at all.
     
  4. Powerman55

    Powerman55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What are you talking about? That's not the consensus at all.

    For the record:
    IF PAC HAS TO HAVE RANDOM BLOOD TESTS THEN ALL OF BOXING HAS TO HAVE THEM (Including Mosely, Hopkins etc). No other boxers in the history of boxing has been subjected to this testing. EVER. Why should Pacquaio be singled out.
     
  5. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    where is this consensus?
     
  6. ApatheticLeader

    ApatheticLeader is bringing ***y back. Full Member

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    This type of testing should have been done long ago, but it hasn't. So therefore, if people actually want the sport to be clean and not potentially littered with cheats, then the stricter testing will obviously have to start somewhere - so why not here?
     
  7. redifish

    redifish Active Member Full Member

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    Lollipop true.
     
  8. ApatheticLeader

    ApatheticLeader is bringing ***y back. Full Member

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    I haven't been reading the board thoroughly, it may not be the consensus at all. The board was littered with 'Pac is guilty' threads when I woke up, including from Pac fans who were having second thoughts about his innocence. From that I made an assumption without having read a single thread today.
     
  9. Jazzo

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    In a guessing game I think that the majority would suspect Pac.

    The test is really an insignificant speck that would have expended no effort on Manny's part - this is my opinion on the matter.

    If a deal cannot be made however, and it looks like this may be the case, then moving on is in order.

    The fight is finished until proven otherwise.
     
  10. ApatheticLeader

    ApatheticLeader is bringing ***y back. Full Member

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    I've been 100% certain since the concept of a Pac/PBF fight was dreamed up that the fight would never happen. If it wasn't this drug thingamijig, it would be something else. Both parties probably should move on, but the accusations against Pac sure as hell aren't going to go away now. And rightly so.
     
  11. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    it's quite normal because probably when you woke up there are a bunch of threads started by floyd fans which could be explained by the time zones. most people thinks that pac was being painted into a drug cheat by GBP and floyd. i have a thread about this and people supports it with an overwhelming vote.

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=194763

    well, this thread doesn't exactly tell if they believe that pac was probabaly guilty but i hope this will give you an idea that most people are aware of this as GBP propaganda to subject pac into a trial by publicity. another poll could be made to see if the opinion of most boxing fans if pac is probably guilty or not.
     
  12. caneman

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  13. ApatheticLeader

    ApatheticLeader is bringing ***y back. Full Member

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    So if people avoid proving definitively one way or the other whether they are guilty of whatever they have been accused of when they have the opportunity to do so, they should be automatically seen as innocent anyway?

    It works in most aspects of law, but not in sports.
     
  14. littlefloyd

    littlefloyd Pure boxer Full Member

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    now that he is not going to fight floyd, and that his next fight could possibly be his last fight before retirement then how can he prove himself? Not like he'll still fight floyd with all this lawsuits he filed.

    I think we would never know imo, should we just erase all his wins based on when we think he started using it even though all we do is assume?
     
  15. littlefloyd

    littlefloyd Pure boxer Full Member

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    If pac is probably guilty, whats next then? Note probably, how should we act as fans regarding his case? All i can think of is if the fans force the issue and we the fans demand pac to be tested instead