By the books, is Foreman-Frazier 1 the best victory ever?

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  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Going strictly by the books, is Foremans championship victory over Frazier the best victory in boxing history?

    A 2 round KO over the man that just defeated the previous champ, Muhammad Ali, in one of the most impressive performances ever.
    And not just a two round KO, but 7 knockdowns. He took almost no damage, and made it look easy.

    Is it the best victory ever?
     
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  2. McGrain

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    It's a very good win at heavyweight for sure.
     
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  3. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    I'd say Muhammad beating George is wholly more impressive given the context.
     
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  4. mcvey

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    I would agree ,and Fraziers win over Ali is close.
     
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  5. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just Frazier didn't beat a prime Ali.Best victory ? Maybe Ali's Foreman win.
     
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    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Yeah I’d have to agree too. Overall that’s the best victory of all time.
    But I thought I’d pose the question. Culturally, it’s two greats battling for the right to be he arch nemises of Ali. But by the books, it is a rediculously high caliber win.

    We haven’t really seen anything like that before or since. Louis-Schmeling II probably being the closest.

    A modern day equivalent would’ve been AJ or Wilder KOing Fury in 2 rounds right after his victory over Wlad.
     
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  7. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Is it possible that the three best fights in boxing history were fought between the same three men?

    Crazy that one could even make an argument for it.
     
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  8. janitor

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    You could make a case for it being the greatest heavyweight win of all time.

    Nobody else, ever put away a top ten all time heavyweight, in such a dominant manner!
     
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  9. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali vs Liston is up there.
     
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  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    But with serious question marks.
     
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  11. Hookandjab

    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I disagree. The Ali of 1971 was under 30 years old, undefeated and tougher and more durable than pre-exile Ali. That was his prime.
     
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  12. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think you meant to say with serious welt marks?
     
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  13. Ken Ashcroft

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    42-1 betting underdog Buster Douglas win against the 37-0 undefeated, undisputed champion, Iron Mike Tyson is arguably the greatest hwt win ever. No catching the champion cold in the early rounds or surprise Hail Mary punch. It was a dominant once in a lifetime performance by Buster against a then seemingly unbeatable Tyson.
     
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  14. JohnThomas1

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    I've never been convinced Ali was tougher and more durable post exile. Ali was no longer the guy Cooper dropped 4 years earlier. Just because he didn't take punishment close to exile doesn't mean he couldn't. He simply didn't have to.
     
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  15. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    What a
    Strange, strange opinion.
     
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