Byrd vs Tyson

Byrd may make him miss a lot and perhaps look less than impressive but it's only a matter of time before the body shots take their toll or Tyson lands cleanly and sparks Byrd out. I think Byrd would do well to last more than 5 rounds, likely gets stopped before then.

 

Prime for prime I think Tyson would catch him at some point.

 

I also think it's likely, but if Byrd can make it into the second half of the fight (and with his skills it's not an unreasonable assumption) Tyson has often looked less-than-great late.

 

I mean, Tillis and Green both saw the final bell, and, feel free to disagree, but I rate Byrd as better than them.

 

Its a possible scenario.:good

 

Here we go.

Is going the distance with Tyson some form of achievement?

Tyson was still a green prospect when he stepped up to face Tillis.

Prior to facing Tillis, Tyson had fought nobody of note, now go and check Tillis' resume prior to the Tyson fight.

Its just a case of an experienced journeymen giving a tougher than expected fight to a green prospect.

Byrd wont be facing that Tyson, hell be facing the one who hunted down Biggs and tore through Berbick.

 

byrds best win would be the overhill Tua, followed by holyfield (despite being old, still fairly good) then third Ross Puritty(who had destroyed wlad, something byrd and others couldn't do) and 4th vitali (excellent longevity but poor resume).

I would say that's he dangerous for Tyson, but Tyson is way more dangerous and the odds are byrd runs for survival, or get koed early.

I don't think he can do a shoulder-dope trick on him like he did with vitali, Tyson is a better boxer than that.

 

People bring up Green and Tillis as if they're a blueprint for victory against Tyson. All they did was stay vertical and won maybe three or four rounds between them out of 20. Neither actually came close to winning.

 

they are blueprints for getting beaten by Tyson yes.

the real blueprint for beating Tyson is facing him in a rematch when he implodes. He sometimes doesn't have the longevity to turn up in shape mentally or physically 2nd time round...if you choose the right time. and then jab him to hell but don't back down. U need those tools of course.

 

good point, plus you beat me on that Sam Peter point from yesterday :good

you keep this up I may start intentionally trying to get you to take me off ignore Herol :deal

 

Yes.

I wouldn't say that. I'd say the fact that Tillis came to fight in his best shape and the style he fought in was equally important as the gulf in professional experience.
i think that version of Tillis does pretty well against any version of Tyson.
That's no knock on Tyson, that's just giving Tillis his dues.

 

Azzer needs to check his dates. Tyson fought Mitch Green, Tillis and Berbick in the same year, and Biggs the year after

Now, if he's making the argument that a boxer can go from "green prospect" to "prime Tyson" in 6 months then it's a new argument

Tillis was pretty good, never said he wasn't, even though he was getting on in years when he faced Mike. I still think a prime Byrd > that Tillis.

That said, yes it is an achievement taking prime Tyson the distance. I think Byrd could do it, even though the chances of him going the distance AND winning are probably slim.

 

byrd was pretty good, but his victories aren't at best, all that good. two overthehills good uns, one of them former atg, and not so good but still fair handfuls purity and vits.

trev has only two similar good wins, as well as some pastit munchfests.

byrd does have a few more defences though, hes marginally ahead. hes very good minor titlist, albeit from the LHW division really. Its obvious he was a clever little boxer more so than trev.

 

And where did i dispute this?

Answer this question, how many fights did Tyson have between Tillis and Berbick.

More recently, Anthony Joshua has had less than 20 fights, and is rumoured to be challenging for the title, does that mean hes in his prime?

Where does it say a fight CANT go from green to prime within 6 months, firstly and secondly, as i asked above, how many fights did Tyson have between Tillis and Berbick?

 

Two important things that are sometimes left out, yes Tillis came in probably the best shape of his life, but also Tyson admitted feeling nervous about having a 10 round fight for the first time, so he was pacing himself.