Caballero: "I'll Beat Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. Like His Daddy"

i asked him that when we were eating lunch at the expo. i didnt have my wife there to interpret, and he had a little difficulty getting his point across, so i am not 100% clear on it. but he was basically getting at there not being any interest on their part in that fight. he wasnt saying they were scared, just that there was zero interest. although he wants juanma most, i think pelenchin just wants to get in against any of the bigger names as quickly as he can. he really wants to be a hero to the people of panama and the more he can pad his resume, the better off he will be. with only a few years left, time is running out on him being choosey. he will sign against the first quality name he can come to an agreement with.

-on that last part, that is my opinion. that is not coming from him

 

he should worry about what he's worth.. and 250k is a lot of money for somebody that doesnt sell.. he's not worth more than that and neither is gamboa but in their head they think they are

he's been talking a lot of **** but when it comes to negotiations he does all he can to not come up with an agreement

that's how he made a name.. without talking all that **** nobody would know who the **** he is..

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it doesnt matter if pelenchin would agree to fight gamboa for $1, nobody was going to pay him 1 million either. so the fight had zero chance of being made. for some reason you seem to think it was a done deal except for pelenchin turning it down. look, its clear you dont like pelenchin because he made juanma look like a coward. thats ok. we all know that juanma wants no part of the fight. and when pelenchin retires, we can hear juanma tell all kinds of stories about how he really wanted to have that fight. meanwhile, the rest of us (besides you and other delusional fans) know the truth

 

the only one delusional is you, you have a caballeros name as a handle and his picture on your avatar.. and you expect me to believe anything you say.. you are probably sucking his dick right now.. caballero is good at telling stories and talking **** to get people on his side,, but his actions speak louder than words... juanma wanted to fight him but he asked a lot more money than he is worth and everybody knows that.. juanma even gave a press conference to talk about it and clear the air.. because unlike you that believes everything caballero saids a lot of puertorricans were giving juanma a hard time about not fighting caballero so he clear the air and explained that caballero wants a lot of more money that he is worth and that's why the fight wasnt made

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any link about this negotiation that you are talking about?

 

I don't know why Caba gets so much love on this forum. He seems like an okay dude, but he has been very unimpressive every single time I’ve seen him fight. And his reasons for not taking a fight with Gamboa are simply excuses. And PELENCHO don't give this bull**** that both fighters priced themselves out of the fight because Arum sent an offer to Caba that HE refused. It may not have been necessarily a fair purse split, but considering Caba doesn't have offers being thrown his way left and right, and I heard he made less that 250K in his fight with Yordan it makes no sense for him to turn it down, no matter what Gamboa would have been making. He would have had an opportunity to make a decent payday, beat a top level highly touted fighter, and put himself in position to command more money in future fights with Lopez, Rafa, or John. The reasoning is suspect and consequently, so is his desire to actually get in the ring with Lopez and Gamboa.

 

Woah, woah, woah boys. Let's all take a breather. :grouphug

Caballero clearly has the desire to fight the top guys in the division. Personally, as a Gamboa fan, I think that he was being slightly unreasonable by not taking the 250K, but I also see his point that Gamboa should not be making 1 mil this early in his career.

I don't think that Caballero would talk all this **** and then try to run away from a fight (eg. Haye). He honestly seems like a guy who, unless is he is getting totally butt****ed, will fight the opponent. After all, he fought numerous guys in their home countries.

And also, why the **** are you ripping on Pelencho, he has given us inside access to one of the truest fighters in the sport today through his articles and forum posts. You have heard from Caballero's mouth that he wants to fight the best now, courtesy of Pelencho. I trust Pelencho to give an accurate description of what Caballero thinks and says. Just because he has a Caballero avatar and name doesn't mean he's being unreasonable.

Puertoriccane, have you ever spoken with Juanma? No, I didn't think so, so you don't know exactly what he was thinking about Caballero. Also, just because Pelencho has close contact with Caballero and can accurately relate what he is thinking about Juanma and Gamboa doesn't mean he is gay for him.:-( Have some respect, the man is a very helpful poster/writer on the website, and just because he supports one fighter doesn't mean he is completely biased and can't see the other sides of an argument.

And remember, I'm saying all this as a GAMBOA FAN.

 

Saying it and doing it are two different things and yes he saids all those things because he wants money and a payday not because he wants to fight the top guys. I dont need to talk to juanma personally i can read and listend to articles and the sports news. He gave a press conference and if i could find the website i would paste it here. Where he said that they were trying to negotiate a fight with caballero but he was asking for a lot more money that Arum was willing to give him. They gave a mo counter offer and told his management that if they taught he was worth more money they could put up the money but they didnt want to. Now this is all juanma and juanmas people talking and it might be bull. But why do we have to believe caballero and not juanmas people. And yes pelencho is bias because he has a friendship with caballero and all he does is promote celestino here and always takes his side thats bias to me.

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thanks for the kind words. it is true i am his friend, and i support him. however, i dont just throw out things that are not true. yes, pelenchin was not going to take 250k while gamboa was making 1 million. there is no way gamboa is worth 1 million right now. and he was not going to get it. so the fight not being made was as much a part of gamboa's doing as caballero. caballero would take less, but not that much less. both guys are great fighters and i think everyone wishes the fight would happen.

as for juanma, i dont know why i bother responding to this guy. he is so blindly a fan that it is pointless. i am a fan too, but i think i also have a grip on reality. and as far as pelenchin has told me, there has never been any offer of any kind by juanmas people to have that fight. next week i will have an interview up on his site and trust me, it will be to the point. it will be in spanish, however, so i hope you speak it.

i would like to add this too. i cant speak for gamboa, juanma or the others. i dont know them. but i promise you if pelenchin says it, it is tue in regards to offers, negotiations, etc. i dont think he is capable of lying, pulling punches, etc. he just says what he thinks. he doesnt play politics. so it should be a good interview

 

The problem is Gamboa and Juanma move fans from their islands and even from the states. Caballlero cant even sell in Panama

 

I think it would be a good fight, Vazquez Jr. will silence Caballero with a nice ko/tko. Vazquez has an awesome condition and in my opinion there's nobody in 122 that can beat him.

 

lol and you're not bias? damn so now caballero is the gospel, what he saids is the true thats all... final verdict.. juanma and all his people are lying

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no not juanmas people, juanma is lying in that interview. as his manager recently was interviewed and stated clearly that they never made an offer to celestino or his people.